Any one know if there would be any indication on the trim tag of a 68 SS if the car did not have the nose stripe from the factory? I was looking at a trim tag for a 68 Camaro that has no paint code and in the place of the paint code are two dashes. They said the two dashes mean it was stripe delete. I think it means that the car had special paint. thanks

The dashes where the paint code normally appears most likely means the car was a special order paint. It was probably painted a paint color not normally used on Camaro's. A friend of mine has a 69 Z that has dashes, he found remnants of what appears to be Carousel Red, a Pontiac color.

Steve R.

Steve, Carousel Red, Hugger Orange and Monaco Orange are all the same paint code number 72.

See the discussion at
http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#ExteriorColors:S:SpecialPaint

I have another question on the special paint code for the 1968 with two dashes. Why would the trim tag have two dashes if it were only stripe delete? I would guess it would have one dash and then the paint code for the upper body. For example on a no stripe white car with paint code 'C' for a white upper and lower body the lower body would be special paint because of no stripe but upper body would just be painted. I would think it would be one dash and the 'C' (- C) Like if the car had a vinyl top it would be (- A). Why would the trim tag show the code for vinyl top and convertible top but not for a top painted a standard 1968 color? Wouldn’t the two dashes be for a non standard paint color upper and lower body?
Rich F. does the CRG database have any 1968 Camaros with two dashes? I have just seen it on one car.

I'm going to edit a few words (in between the asterisks) because my original attempt might lead people astray and come back to haunt me. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif

My response to your first few questions is that they are marked like this simply because this is the way that Fisher Body chose to mark them. The second *exterior color position is only significant in 68* if there was a vinyl or soft top. Lacking that, it makes some sense that their marking scheme would simply consider only the body color, and so any "special paint order" set both top and bottom to a dash. Could they have done it any number of other ways? Obviously, yes.

But, from what we know to-date, it appears that they did it this way.

Yes - we have a number of examples of dash-dash 68s in the CRG data, as well as several dash-X 68s with vinyl or convertible tops (where X is the standard top color).

HTH,

Rich


[This message has been edited by Rich Fields (edited 10-16-2000).]

thanks for your replys Rich. One more question out of curiosity. Does CRG data show any 1967 or 1968 Camaros that were delivered to the dealer painted with a non standard color? I have heard of 1969 Camaros done on special paint COPO's but I do not recall any '67 or '68.

Special paint didn't require a COPO order. COPO's were more mechanical oriented in nature, thought some fleet COPOs could have special colors.

We have several Camaros from all three years with special order paint. This is something the GM offered for years if you took the time to order it and pay for it. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif

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Kurt S.
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Kurt, Jim Mattison, who worked in the Fleet and Special Order Department from 1967 to 1970, did an interview with MCR magazine. He states that the Fleet and Special Order Department wrote the COPO's for taxicabs, trucks, 427 Camaros, etc. and special paint orders had to be processed through this Department one at a time. There was no additional cost for special paint on a fleet order but a customer (dealer) could be charged between $25.00 and $100.00.
Maybe JohnZ would know more about this.

[This message has been edited by JOE58 (edited 10-16-2000).]

I agree they would go thru that dept. There wouldn't be a COPO for the order, but it would be a special order (and so noted on the broadcast sheets).

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Kurt S.
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