Somebody help me out with this cause this is totally retarded. A 69 shifter or so the seller claims, goes to 725.00 with 2 minutes left, and then gets hit twice and ends in the dying seconds for like 1837.00 US?

WHAT AM I MISSING HERE? Ebay 1969 Shifter made of Gold! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10076&item=2451745242)

Big block rods and mounting plate.

The Yenko/COPO crowd will pay what it takes to get the right pieces.

I think it's crap. I think people throw items out there to see if someone try's to bite. Not really wanting to sell the item, they have a friend out bid extremely high to win, so they can keep the item.
Testing the market? Trying to manipulate the market?
Have no life? Could be alot of things. I don't believe anyone would pay that much.
Hell, I have a circa 1970 hurst comp. shifter in my RS right now that was in it when I got the car.
I doubt I'd get $1800+ for it. If I could, I'd be laying under the damm thing tonight ripping it out for E-bay. LOL smile.gif ;)

One thing about the having a friend bump it really high to keep it from selling. Ebay charges you based on what you sell, so if it gets an outrageous price, and its just you keeping it from selling, thats money your just throwing away.

Are factory Hurst shifters with big block rods and brackets that rare? Why are the big block pieces different then the small block ones? Just wondering. Thanks

One of the bidders emailed me back and explained that he wanted the big block mounting bracket. I think the shifter arms are a bit heavier for big blocks and apparently the Yenko / Copo buyers will spend a lot of dough for this setup. Personally, I think it's totally nuts and that shifter looked so rusted that it might never clean up without heavy pitting. Looked like a piece for the garbage bin to me, and then I see 1800.00. LMAO at the fool that bought it!

A bb in a 1st gen Camaro is positioned 1" to the right and about 3/8" forward of the sb position. In order for the shifter to maintain position in the console it had to be mounted differently, hence the offset mounting plate and longer rods. The lower lock rod for the steering column is also slightly longer. I sold a better unit for $1000 years ago and the guy was quite happy to obtain it.

A '69 Yenko Camaro recently sold for over $160,000. Correct rare parts for those cars will increase accordingly.

That IS a lot of cabbage but not realy a total surprize. They stopped making those rare desireable parts a long time ago. Many people tossed them in the trash back in the day. The demand is there and the money is there. I hope you guys all have the parts you need because the prices will not be coming down any time soon. I thought $450 for a complete small block Muncie setup was high but that (incomplete :confused: )BB shifter parts auction was definately an eye opener :eek:

The basic shifter assy and stick would be the same for small block or big block, Camaro or Firebird.

The braket is different, the linkage is different. Saginaw is different from Muncie.

-Mark.

Mark,

I was looking for a shifter for my Z28 and found one about a month ago on eBay. It was mint and was 100% complete from top to bottom. Bids were at 300+ and I hit it with 693.02 with 3 seconds left in the auction. Another guy bid the exact same second as me and he bid 702.00 and took it. (bastage)

This will show that yes, if someone wants something bad enough, the demand will bring more cash.

I guess I'm a bastage :D

Jonesy?

Get the F*** out of here.

Was that you that outbid me on the shifter and emailed back and forth saying you had to have it and mentioned that you had another that you could sell me? That's hillarious. Here's a photo of the one that got away, let me know if this is it. I am bidding on another complete one on eBay today.
http://www.x33d80.com/images/shifter2.gif

Was this the shifter Jonesy? If so Grrrrrrrrrrr!

I bought my 69 Z28 shifter a couple of years ago for $250. I also got my mint radio delete plate for $188 off Ebay and the heater delete plates for around $500 from Hemmings. And I thought I paid too much for the crossram setup with original GM hood, NOS 140 cam and valve springs for $7700 a couple of years ago. I'm glad I grabbed the stuff when I did, because it would cost 2 to 3 times that amount to get the stuff today.

True that Jeff. I just saw a cross ram tube that a friend emailed me tonight, and its currently at over 1000.00 on eBay.

On a good note though, I did score the shifter today on eBay. $460.00 and it's as complete as can be with all the correct arms, clips, bolts, shifter, handle etc. Got it with 1 second to spare on the auction and sniped it like a pro. graemlins/beers.gif

I also scored a rosewood dash today on eBay and an RS Backup Light switch. All in all a pretty good day all things considered.

Thats my shifter and it doesnt bother me what I paid. It was the last thing I needed to complete my car and I got tired of coming up short on finding one. graemlins/beers.gif

Way to go Jonesy. It sure is a small world isn't it. I got the other one tonight for a decent price. I would of bid more on that other if I knew someone was going to outbid me. Because of the last time, I bid 753.02 this time but lucky for me the attention was low and it didn't go as high this time. Here is a picture of the one I got today and glad to see the other one went to a good guy:)

http://www.x33d80.com/images/shifter2.jpg
http://www.x33d80.com/images/Shifter.jpg

I was watching the auction on the crossram breather tube. I still need that piece, but there's no way I'm paying that kind of money for one. $1050 for a 2' rubber hose! I'll buy the repo instead.

Hugger_69,
Nice shifter. I saw that, looks really complete. But you need to check the arms and levers and make sure they are the same as a Camaro SB (it came off a F-bird). The reverse lever is different for sure.
I'm also curious what the lengths are on the two long bolts. Those are the only ones I'm missing, though I'm not sure what that one short bolt is for.

WOW,
glad i have a Hurst shifter in my 1967,
and don't have to worry about the 1969
extra reverse lockout safety linkage junk!{stuff}

Hmm i oughta look in the cave {cellar ;) }
and see if the Muncie shifter is still there.

If i recall,it had an ugly chrome shifter knob;
and was not pretty any longer.

I guess if your car is a lot more correct than mine it might be worth trhe extra $$$$ for
a "correct" shifter.

I like to drive mine,even tho its not;"correct". graemlins/beers.gif

Kurt,

When it arrives I will get you the low down on the bolts lengths. You mentioned the little bolt and weren't sure about it? Well it's the allen head bolt that goes on the inside of the shifter bracket. The hollow section where the pin on the inside of the shifter body would hit when putting the shifter into reverse gear to be exact. You know how the shifter feels spring loaded when pushing it sideways? The pin moves over towards the bracket and a conventenal bolt head would hit it and thats why they use the little one. I did know the shifter was from a pontiac (# ended in 2) and the rods should be the same length. I think it's just the shift lever that connects to the trans that is different, but I will know for sure when it gets here. Will keep you posted.

[ 01-13-2004, 09:14 PM: Message edited by: hugger_sixty_nine ]

We might be talking different little bolts. There's three for the shifter plate - 2 hatched hex heads and a phillips.
In the pic there's a fourth one (almost touching the one rod). ?

My comment on the Pontiac origins was mostly for the audience reading. smile.gif

What numbers do you guys have stamped on the dr side of shifter? I been trying to figure out the Hurst date code. I have seen numbers like 19035E and 19053E where I think the second digit is the 9 of the 1969.

Joe58, My Documented 06A RSZ28 has the following numbers on the original shifter body- 19D51C. I have been told that this equates to- 1=chevrolet motor division, 9=1969, D=April, 5=5th day, 1=1st. shift, C= Clevland. Makes sense since my trans stamp is P9D28C. The only other 69 shifter i have in my data base is 29D21C, which was out of a friends Los Angeles 69 Z28. I have seen the articles on Hurst shifter dating and they never seem to make any sense too me. I once asked Ed Cunneen regarding the shifter dating but he was not sure either. Maybe Mark C. would comment?

both of my numbers 19035E and 19053E could be 19D35E and 19D53E as they were hard to read. Also the shifter rods and trans shift levers have numbers on them. The front of the shifter body has 3138 stamp but I have seen this number on many shifters that were not 69 Camaro so I think that was just the Hurst number for that one single part of the shifter.