I would like to find out what it is,what its out of, gear ratios,and any thing else i can find out. thanks. http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/ochrisl/lst?.dir=/other+stuff/muncie&.order=&.view=l&.src=bc&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/

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ok ill do my best, theres alot of #'s but the important one is P8K05D

P=Muncie 4 SPd
8=1968
K05 = Sept 5th
D=Day shift

it probably went into a 1969 model car, I'm still working on what it came out of,(looks like a camaro or Fbird to me) as so far your 4spd codes are the same as the camaro decoding charts say

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On Muncies, the second number is the year of the car it went to and not the year it was built. If it is an 8 then it was in a '68 car.

Its an M20 by the number of rings on the input(2). It was also installed in a 1968 Pontiac by looking at the partial vin.

How many would the M21 have?

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I can not read all the numbers in your second photo, Dscf0037. The P=Muncie, K=July, 05=Fifth of the month, ?Suffix=First gear ratio. The rest is as follows.

Main case = 3925660 = 1968 - 1970 Ratios: M20 2.52 1st , M21 2.20 1st, M22 2.20 1st
Tail housing = 3857584 = 1966 - 1970 Passenger side speedo, 27 spline

Here is a link that may help you. http://www.nastyz28.com/transid.html


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Wow thanks for the quick replies!The #'s that you couldnt read are p80k5e.So its an m20?Is that the good one?Is that close ratio?I have two and i want to put the the better one in my car.I'll work on getting the #s off the other one.Thanks

This should be a wide ratio with a 2.52 to 1 first gear.

Photo 8 shows the VIN derivative

28U174252 decodes as

2 = Pontiac Division
8 = 1968
U = Lordstown Ohio final assembly, where they build Firebirds up April of 1969.
174252 = Last 6 from VIN

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2002 Pontiac TA WS6 Ram Air
2001 GMC SLT Extended Cab Z71
1964 Chevrolet Impala 2 Dr Sport Coupe

A M20 vs a M21. Neither is better, per se, just different.
I'd rather have the wide ratio for the deeper first gear.


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What is it worth?I got it from my bro for$150.I plan to hang on to them both but would like to know what there worth.Thanks.

It's worth more than $150. http://www.camaros.net/forum/wink.gif

Hard to determine value on used parts. It could be good or junk.

Its only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

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2002 Pontiac TA WS6 Ram Air
2001 GMC SLT Extended Cab Z71
1964 Chevrolet Impala 2 Dr Sport Coupe