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: POP #'s and Vin


no1dc
Nov 2nd, 00, 03:24 PM
I feel stupid for asking but I need the help of someone more knowledgeable about numbers.
VIN # 124677N117153
Engine # VI010ME
POP #'s(cowl tag)
10A
ST 67-12467 NOR 14516 BODY

TR 741-Z R-1 PAINT

W 2MG

Your help would be appreciated. Thanks Pete

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67 327/210 stock std red camaro convertible, 78 stock silver anniversary vette, 1976 kz900

ragtopman
Nov 3rd, 00, 03:26 AM
Its a 1st week of Oct. 66 Norwood built 327 2bbl. car, red ext., red standard int., white conv. top, tinted windshield, console and a powerglide.

Are you sure about the #s that you got off of the engine? That engine needs to be dated at least 2 weeks prior to your build date.

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67 Camaro SS Conv.
70 Challenger R/T Conv.

no1dc
Nov 3rd, 00, 04:48 AM
Yes I'm sure of the engine #. That's got me confused also. I rebuilt it 10+ years ago. It was the original engine that came out of the car in 1976 when a 350 was put in it. BTW ragtopman I'm looking for control link bolts for my manual top. The body shop(out of Bus) 15 years ago evidently lost them, any ideas? As you can see it's taken me a long time to get this restored. Like everyone else, family takes priority, then there is never enough time or money.Thanks for the help Pete

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67 327/210 stock std red camaro convertible, 78 stock silver anniversary vette, 1976 kz900

Kurt S
Nov 3rd, 00, 10:39 AM
Is the partial VIN stamped on the engine pad?
What's the casting # and date from the block?

So it is not a V1001ME on the block and you typed the VIN 7N117153 correctly?

Just double checking. That's late to be a 10A car.

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Kurt S.
www.camaros.org (http://www.camaros.org)

no1dc
Nov 3rd, 00, 07:44 PM
Kurt,
The Vin# came off the plate on the drivers side door pillar, it's typed correctly. The engine # came off the pad in front of the passenger side head and it is
VI(not 1)010ME. Now I'm really going to sound stupid, where do I find the casting #? Isn't the date the # on the pad infront of the passenger side head? Apologize for any confusion just trying to figure this out. Appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks Pete

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67 327/210 stock std red camaro convertible, 78 stock silver anniversary vette, 1976 kz900

Ed Ernst
Nov 3rd, 00, 08:51 PM
Block casting # is located behind left side cylinder head where bellhousing bolts to block.
Block casting date is located on the block behind right side cylinder head below the distributor.
Check these #'s to help determine if the motor is correct.
Post the block casting and date #'s.
Partial VIN's were not always stamped on 67 motors.
ME = 327ci/210hp w/powerglide
VI010 = Flint plant October 10th
"I" was sometimes substituted for a "1"
Someone may have misstamped the date at the factory.
However, a discussion on another site indicated that the letter in a build date, such as the "A" in 10A, may more represent a build period than an actual build week. So, depending on the length of the build period, this could affect the dates of various components and make them appear late as far as date coding, if using the regular week method.
(I am basing this on a question about a 69 L78 car I walked away from (DAM*), so am assuming it would relate to 67's; but I may assume too much and I'm sure someone will help if this is so http://www.camaros.net/forum/wink.gif )
ST 67-12467 - 1967 V8 convertible
NOR 14516 BODY - is the body unit #
TR 741-Z - Red standard buckets without headrests.
R-1 PAINT - Bolero red w/white top
W - Tinted windshield
2MG - Group 2 options: M-powerglide C-center console


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1969 LA Z28 - 42k miles - PoP & build sheet - original drivetrain(DZ/M21/BV), paint(57 57) & interior(723).
1967 327/210 base coupe, three on the tree, Royal plum w/black std interior, 88k.



[This message has been edited by Ed Ernst (edited 11-04-2000).]

ragtopman
Nov 4th, 00, 11:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by no1dc:
Yes I'm sure of the engine #. That's got me confused also. I rebuilt it 10+ years ago. It was the original engine that came out of the car in 1976 when a 350 was put in it. BTW ragtopman I'm looking for control link bolts for my manual top. The body shop(out of Bus) 15 years ago evidently lost them, any ideas? As you can see it's taken me a long time to get this restored. Like everyone else, family takes priority, then there is never enough time or money.Thanks for the help Pete
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Control link bolts??? I just got done installing all my bows, so everything is real fresh in my mind. Where about do these bolts go in reguards to which bow be it side or what? I have pics if you need them also.

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67 Camaro SS Conv.
70 Challenger R/T Conv.

Kurt S
Nov 4th, 00, 06:30 PM
10A is the week the body was built, not when the car was assembled.

The VIN and NOR # are actually in the range of a 10B car. So this car may have been held up in Fisher body for a few days before it went to assembly. Thus it got a little later engine. Unusual, but not unheard of.

Do you have the #'s from the rearend? They are on the axle tube. See 'Decoding' on CRG for a great sketch.

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Kurt S.
www.camaros.org (http://www.camaros.org)

no1dc
Nov 6th, 00, 10:13 AM
Ragtopman,
I apologize for the long post and I'll do the best I can descriping the location, etc.. of this bolt. Let's see if I can explain the bolts I'm looking for. I'm looking in the Fischer body manual page 13-50, it shows it pretty well there. The bolts I'm looking for are control link bolt. There is one on each side. They appear to anchor the rear control link arm to the assembly apparatus. The rear control; link arm I believe keeps the top "square" as it's raised and lowered. The bolt is probably sleeved and/or shouldered and might have some sort of bushing associated with it so that the rear control link arm can pivot on it and the threard would go through the assembly. The control link arm is between the middle and rear bow just in front of the round tube support for the top. This tube support is between the middle and rear bow. The rear control link arm has a rivet attaching it at the top and a hole I'm guessing haven't measured it at the bottom about 3/4 of an inch. This bolt appears to be the most posterior of all the bolts associated with the manual top assembly. The control link bolt looks like it would go through the oblong hole in the assembly. It's the flat part of the assembly that has serrations on it. The control link bolt would be the second bolt head just above the manual spring if you drew a straight line along the bottom of the sring arm and went rearward(towards thr trunk). I could fax you a picture out of the manual if that would help. My description leaves something to be desired. Just email me a fax # if you'd like. Thanks Pete petemag@iland.net


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67 327/210 stock std red camaro convertible, 78 stock silver anniversary vette, 1976 kz900

no1dc
Nov 7th, 00, 09:11 AM
KurtS, I'll look for all the numbers I can Thursday and post them. I appreciate all the help from you and the rest of the members. Pete

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67 327/210 stock std red camaro convertible, 78 stock silver anniversary vette, 1976 kz900

no1dc
Apr 24th, 01, 05:28 PM
KurtS,
It's been quite awhile but dropped the rearend and was able to find the numbers. They are 3894859, they are one the side with the vent. Opposite side there is this GM8. Hope this helps. Is it possible that the rearend was painted engine orange. When I was cleaning it on the top, side facing trunk it's orange under the grease and crud. Thanks Pete

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67 red camaro convertible, 78 silver anniversary vette, 1976 kz900, 1985 Z28 camaro, 1971 chevelle. Too many toys now My four car garage is no longer big enough.

[This message has been edited by no1dc (edited 04-24-2001).]

Kurt S
Apr 25th, 01, 05:42 AM
Pete,
Thanks for getting back with the rear axle info.
Those are the casting #'s for the center section.
The axle code tells a lot more info and is located on the passenger side axle tube. Look under 'Decoding' on the CRG website for a great sketch of the location. It should be a code like PA0922G1.
The axles were originally painted black.
Thanks again!


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Kurt S.
CRG www.camaros.org (http://www.camaros.org)

no1dc
Apr 25th, 01, 07:58 AM
KurtS,
Here's the #'s and thanks for the info on painting rear end. PW 0823 G There was no # after the G that I could see. If you need any other info to help with documenting this car let me know. Again thanks for all your help. Pete

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67 red camaro convertible, 78 silver anniversary vette, 1976 kz900, 1985 Z28 camaro, 1971 chevelle. Too many toys now My four car garage is no longer big enough.

Jonesy
Apr 25th, 01, 04:32 PM
PW= 2.73 gears non POSI
0823= August 23rd
G= Detroit Gear and Axle Plant