I bought this car for a price I couldn't turn down. When I bought I was told it is a SS350 car alot things lead me to belive this but I was wondering if the Cowl tag or VIN could help me in figuring out if it is or isn't a SS350 car. I need to figure this info out as best as I can so I know which way to Restore this car. Any help would be greatfully appericated. Here is some of the Info.
VIN # 124377L115384
Cowl Tag
11B ?613
ST 67-12637 LOS 5621
TR F-F
732-2
EL-2EMG-3SDK
5Y

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Thanks Jeff

You have a Marina Blue(F-F)V-8 coupe with a blue deluxe int(732-Z). It should have all tinted windows and a fold down rear seat(EL). 2EMG is air conditioning(E), power glide trans(M) with a center console(G).3SBK(should be a B, not a D)is the int. & ext. brite trim mldgs. with a rear window defogger. and 5Y is the deluxe seat belts. But sorry, no 4P which is the SS350 code.

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67 Camaro SS Conv.
70 Challenger R/T Conv.

The 3sdk is a D i just went and double check it. Where on the cowl tag would the 4P be located at. The upper right side of my tag is beat up a little. Is the rear fold down seat a rare option? Thanks for the Info Still not sure how I want to restore this car it is in great condition for the 900.00 that I paid for it. Then vin says it can with a V8 which motor do you think it had 327?

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Thanks Jeff

The 3SDK, it cant be a D, there are no D's in group 3. Just S, L, K, & B.

The fold down worth, guys seem to be asking $250. or so for them. Its not that rare.

Group 4 is at the bottom left of the cowl tag.

It should have a 327(originally) in yours. But for $900. bones, if the car is in good shape, you got yourself a screamin deal.

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67 Camaro SS Conv.
70 Challenger R/T Conv.

My info shows both "B - rear defogger" and "D - gauges or clock". Not everything in print is correct so ragtopman may very well be correct...


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I know I am not an expert but I do have a little info about this car and had did a little Dective work I the Cowl Tag. From the www.camaros.org (http://www.camaros.org) web site it says that the D is for Lamp Courtesy. I know that it doesn't have rear defrost has no signs of having rear defrost. Those sets of letters are probley the easiest letters to read. Are you sure there was no D in group 3? Not trying to be a pain in the butt but just help you understand why I say it is a D. If want to see the Cowl tag I can send it to you I took a Digtal pic of it.

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Thanks Jeff

3D is U29, courtesy light. Pretty common option.

Your car could have had either 327 in it originally and should have a 10 bolt in it.

What do you think the letter before the 613 is? For your car, it should be either an E, F, G, or H.

Thanks!


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Kurt S.
www.camaros.org (http://www.camaros.org)

My guess is that the letter before it is a F any idea what that set of letters and number
there mean. Could you post what each letter would mean. And yes it does have a 10 bolt in it. What gear ratios did the 10 bolts come with?

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Thanks Jeff

Ya know, I just looked in both my Hooper books and neither one show a D in group 3. Wonder what gives?

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67 Camaro SS Conv.
70 Challenger R/T Conv.

Thanks.
The codes were used internally at the LA plant to schedule the different vehicles they build. Doesn't decode unfortunately.

The 10 bolt will be stamped on the axle tube with a code that will tell us the ratio and build date. See 'Decoding' on the CRG site for a great sketch of the location.

Ragtop,
You now realize one of the reason the CRG exists, to help correct all the errors out there.

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Kurt S.
www.camaros.org (http://www.camaros.org)

Now let me ask you this question is the 4p the only way SS350 camaros were shipped. As I went back to the info I printed off it says that a P in group 4 is a Radius Rod. Did the P stand for SS350, 350 engine, or was the radius Rod the only way the SS350 was built?


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Thanks Jeff

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kurt S:
Thanks.
The codes were used internally at the LA plant to schedule the different vehicles they build. Doesn't decode unfortunately.

The 10 bolt will be stamped on the axle tube with a code that will tell us the ratio and build date. See 'Decoding' on the CRG site for a great sketch of the location.

Ragtop,
You now realize one of the reason the CRG exists, to help correct all the errors out there.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Tis the reason that I have been there for a number of years, Youve written to me before.



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67 Camaro SS Conv.
70 Challenger R/T Conv.

Jim,
I wasn't picking on you, just the errors in the Hoopers books. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif

TJ450,
You're looking at the description, not the RPO column. Every L48 (aka SS350), except for the first month or two of production, had a 4P code. The descriptions tell why a 4N and a 4P code are different.

Let us know what you find on the rear axle code.


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Kurt S.
www.camaros.org (http://www.camaros.org)

Is it correct that the 4P was the code for the radius rod on a small block car? That is what I thought it was for, which explains why early production high performance cars did not have the 4P code. They didn't start putting on the radius rods until November builds.

Scott.

The code for the Diff is as follows
C or G I looks moe like a C-BP-10-03G1.
The car only has a Mono Spring in also so my Guess is it is a base Camaro.
It seems like alot of the 67 Camaros were built with AC ???????

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Thanks Jeff

Something doesn't look right. That looks like a late 69 code with the C in front of the code.
What's the casting date on the rear side of the center section?
Is it a 3.08 or a 2.73 rear (you'll have to spin and count it)?

All the 67's had monoleafs.
About 13% had AC in 67.

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Kurt S.
www.camaros.org (http://www.camaros.org)

I had thought thah all 67 had mono leaf. I will count the gears when I get a chance. All the hidden VINs match. There were two on the cowl. One was stamped ont the inside where the wiper linkage is located and the other was on the outside where the cowl grills are ussually located. The rear axle doesn't suprise that it is wrong since one of the hacks that had it before Painted all the BRT Blue interior black. I check the diff for build date also. 13% with AC makes somewhat rare ???? Car is pieces right now which is how I bought it I plan on send the shell out to stripped here in the next couple weeks.


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Thanks Jeff

Rear Axle Casting Date #s are as follows I238
The Gear ratio I think is a 2:73 that what it seemed like. Didn't d oa real good job of marking spots. If my reading are right on the casting it was made on Sep23 1968 which means it diffently isn't the correct axle for the car.



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Thanks Jeff

Yes, it looks like the axle has been swapped. As a 69 axle, it should have had a 2.73, so you counted correctly.

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Kurt S.
www.camaros.org (http://www.camaros.org)