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: Question..what type suspention to use for rear?


BRY67
Feb 6th, 01, 03:13 PM
I am sorry for all the questions lately but I am in the process of gathering info and trying to learn something about road suspention & braking before I dive head first into this project of mine. I am trying not to destroy an allready good street car http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif
I am curious what type of suspention the fast guys use for the rear, I am interested in the nevada road races and things of that nature so you know the application (mostly just hauling *** on the street though!) http://www.camaros.net/forum/biggrin.gif
any ideas would be helpful.

P.S. I would use the stock leafs but I don't know if they could be used properly with the mini tubs I am planning to put in the big rubber. thx guys!

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BRY67
Feb 6th, 01, 07:13 PM
nobody interested huh?

pdq67
Feb 7th, 01, 01:58 PM
Sure we are, just haven't been on tonight long enough ta get to you.

I personally just rebuilt my stock rear by adding all poly, new leaf srings in the flavor you like (i.e., mono's, three leaf mono replacements, or four, five and even six leaf multi-leaf's) and bolt on subframe connectors.

I am also installing 11.75" 1989 Camaro rotors using 1980 Cad. Seville reworked caliper brackets to improve braking and ta go with my new 13" front rotors.

I also raised my leaf spring front mount holes. All this plus a 3/4" rear sway bar that I'm going ta test ta see if I still want to use it plus old fashioned homemade "slapper" traction bars.

How much do you want ta do and/or spend to improve your ride?? pdq67

BRY67
Feb 7th, 01, 02:30 PM
Well, I am trying to get the nicest pieces I can afford, I was considering something like the modern camaros use, the "three link" I believe it is called but I don't know if I can hack making suspention work I have never done it before.
I am a good learner though and I have been trying to figure this out for a while. I am not sure but I might try to use the same mount for the long bar, (the tranny mounted one), and then fab my own lowers. but I need more research.

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<UL TYPE=SQUARE> 67' Camaro 408" <LI>BBC, 598 HP. th400 3500 stall
<LI> 3.90 gears
<LI>best of 11.50 @ 118 MPH (Street Driven)
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JayBird
Feb 7th, 01, 04:05 PM
I have the Hotchkis 3-leaf rear springs. The lower the back 1.5". They come with u-bolts, HD shackles, graphite bushings and new HD clip nuts for the front of spring. Real nice piece if you want your car lowered. If lowered is not your thing, put new bushings in your current springs.

My 2 cents,




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Jay
69 SS-350 4-speed
Hotchkis suspension

davidpozzi
Feb 7th, 01, 06:26 PM
The good old leaf springs are a pretty good system.
The big thing you can do is get springs with better rates and more stiffness in the front half of the spring.
Then you won't need any add on gizmos to get traction.
Unless you understand a whole lot about suspension geometry I wouldn't fool with converting to a three link type rear suspension.
There would be a small decrease in weight but the main adavantage is in making more room behind the axle for the gas tank and spare tire, as was done in the third and fourth gen Camaros.

You would have to add a lot of structure to the rear of the car which could add back the weight you saved from switching.
Improve what you have for now until you have a VERY good reason to change it completely.
David

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First Gen Suspension Page (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Pozzi/first_gen_suspension.htm)
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BRY67
Feb 8th, 01, 08:48 AM
Yeah I think you are right, I will leave it alone for now. I have the factory type multi leaf can I use a block to drop it about an nch or two?

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<UL TYPE=SQUARE> 67' Camaro 408" <LI>BBC, 598 HP. th400 3500 stall
<LI> 3.90 gears
<LI>best of 11.50 @ 118 MPH (Street Driven)
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davidpozzi
Feb 8th, 01, 02:29 PM
Look into a really good stiffer rear spring set. I think stock rates are way too soft for what you have.
Are you using some type of lift bar or other traction bar?
David

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Check my web page for First Gen Camaro suspension info:
David's Motorsports page (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Pozzi/)
First Gen Suspension Page (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Pozzi/first_gen_suspension.htm)
67 RS 327
69 Camaro Vintage Racer
65 Lola T-70 Can Am Vintage Racer

BRY67
Feb 9th, 01, 01:33 PM
Yes, I have the south side lift bars as of now. what about a ladder bar type rear sus.? just an idea because I have had some experience with these type of suspentions.

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<UL TYPE=SQUARE> 67' Camaro 408" <LI>BBC, 598 HP. th400 3500 stall
<LI> 3.90 gears
<LI>best of 11.50 @ 118 MPH (Street Driven)
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my69gofast
Feb 11th, 01, 10:14 PM
If you are leaning towards keeping the leaf spring setup but are looking for less weight with a higher spring rate, what about a set of fiberglass springs? They are available in higher rates, have a smooth action, and save quite a bit of weight. You can't use them with certain traction devices though. Just something to consider if you are planning a road race type of suspension.

Bryan's67'
Feb 13th, 01, 05:19 PM
hey guys I have got to let everyone here know I had to change my e-mail server and now this is my new name I used to be bry67

BRY67
Feb 13th, 01, 05:40 PM
well mabe not I hate dial up connections and now I have to use one I amstill bry67

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<UL TYPE=SQUARE> 67' Camaro 408" <LI>BBC, 598 HP. th400 3500 stall
<LI> 3.90 gears
<LI>best of 11.50 @ 118 MPH (Street Driven)
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Bryan's67'
Feb 14th, 01, 07:46 PM
well it looks like bryan's67' is the new name sorry for the mixup! http://www.camaros.net/forum/biggrin.gif

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67' Camaro 408"
BBC, 598 HP. th400 3500 stall

3.90 gears

best of 11.50 @ 118 MPH (Street Driven)

pdq67
Feb 16th, 01, 02:53 PM
I was just thinking about reading somewhere recently that the Chevelles rear suspension being a link type was better at planting the rear when dragging than leaf springs if it isn't jacked up. Question, what does anybody think about putting the Chevelle rear setup under our cars. Just curious.. pdq67

Bryan's67'
Feb 17th, 01, 12:46 PM
yes I have been looking into the triangulated four link made by morrisn enterprises, it looks nice but I don't know if it will allow the tire clearance I need. I am also looking at the "four bar" set up that they make it uses a pan hard bar and holds the pinion angle at a given angle through the whole travel.

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67' Camaro 408"
BBC, 598 HP. th400 3500 stall

3.90 gears

best of 11.50 @ 118 MPH (Street Driven)

Bryan's67'
Feb 18th, 01, 03:09 PM
anybody got any ideas on these two setups?
(above)

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67' Camaro 408"

BBC, 598 HP. th400 3500 stall

3.90 gears

best of 11.50 @ 118 MPH (Street Driven)