I read David Pozzi's suspension page and found it really helpful, and want to GREATLY Thank David Pozzi for all of his time and efforts. I do have a question for my application. I have a 68 Camaro I am rebuilding, and have new pst parts for my front end. I sent my Power steering unit to Lares corp in Minnesota to have it gone through, and a quick ration (2 1/2 to 3 turns Lock to lock) and I have a stock replacement idler arm and stock pitman arm (5.25). I am switching from stock drums to discs and have 2 sets of steering arms to choose from: the short 3 1/4?(drums) and long 4 1/2?(discs)? This is for a weekend toy cruiser that can hold its own on the track and mostly off the track. Thanks for any imput!

Jeff

Sorry,

I forgot the main question,

Which control arms should I use? Opinions are appreciated!

Jeff

If you do a search for "short steering arms" you'll find a couple of threads with a lot of info. In a nutshell, the short ones are for a faster ratio. If you decide to use the longer ones for some reason, send me an e-mail. I'm looking for a set of short steering arms myself.

I had a problem on both of my Camaros in that I could not get the calipers on the rotors with the short steering arms, I had to use the original steering arms from my drum brake setup.

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I'd definately use the shorter steering arms.
I switched mine years ago and I think it reduced the steering lock to lock by about half a turn.

I think the short steering arms are worth more speedup than the long Pitman arm.
David

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2-67 Camaros:
I had a problem on both of my Camaros in that I could not get the calipers on the rotors with the short steering arms, I had to use the original steering arms from my drum brake setup.

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I haven't heard of this!
What was hitting?
Were you using the four piston type calipers?

I've used them on the single piston and no problem.
David

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Thanks for the replies! The short control arms came off the drum brake setup that was original on my car. The longer control arms were from a 72 nova with disc brakes. Both cars were rear steer...........

Jeff

Big block calipers, single piston.

The steering arm where the tie rod mounts was sitting right where the lower bolt for the caliper went.
Had to use the drum brake steering arms because they dropped down lower.

Big block calipers? Again, I have never run across a caliper that was for BB application. Just wondering if I have missed something. Where you at John Z?

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I think I "eye-balled" mine in the last two weeks or so and didn't pick up on any problem. I have both arms. A set of '67 short and '74 Apollo long.

I checked because of the flat stock brackets I'm going to make to mount the big single piston calipers on either my drum brake spindles or the Apollo disc brake spindles with 13" Vette rotors.

I wished to heck that chop-saw would get here!!!

David, wouldn't it be better to use the long arms to correct bump steer with by heating and bending down due to the longer arm pulling the tierod end closer to the pivot point of the short arm but lower??

Please advise. THX.

pdq67

2-67 Perhaps your short arms were off a front steer car? I have a short pair of arms with all three mounting holes-the tie rod hole and the two spindle holes-on the same plane. There is no "drop" to the arm where the tie rod attaches, unlike my long arms that drop down at the tie rod mounting point. Maybe that was the interference problem? Those ams would increase the problem with bump steer due to them moving the outer tie rod up in relation to the ground. Just a thought.

pdq,
The long arms would take less bending to correct bump steer assuming you had bump steer.

But the short arms will get you there too, as I only had to bend mine down a half inch to correct it.

Also I would not bend the arms unless you measure the bump steer first.

The short steering arms were used on Z/28's with disc brakes so they should work.
I don't understand why there would be a problem using them.
David

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