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: after guldstrand mod : bottoming


Marc
Sep 28th, 02, 08:52 AM
I just performed the guldstrand mod today with a bodyman , it went all right, i used the dimensions given on David Pozzy ‘s web page , i also had the template and article ‘how to’ of Guldstrand themself, but the dimension weren’t good.
It went allright, we cut off the the above of the A arm support to gain clearance in its movement, but I didn’t want to remove too much of the above of the support, because of the plate that gives strength (rigidity) to the support. I called it ‘plate’ : I mean the metal part of the support, seen when you look from the exterior of the engine bay to the support, that follows the beard (?) from one hole to another .
Well, now, at maximum suspension travel, the A-arm doesn’t touch the stop rubber that is attached on the sub frame, but it does touch (metal against metal) the higher quoin of the support (at the front side) that have been cut off. But as I said, I didn’t cut off more at that accurate place because I didn’t want to cut in the welding that attachs the (so called) ‘plate’ to the edge of the support .

I hope this is understandable !
If it is not, tell me I ‘ll try to do better.
I could try to show on a picture, to SEE what I mean. How do we post a picture here?

Please tell me what you do to this problem of bottoming ? place the rubber elsewhere?

Thanks!
Marc

davidpozzi
Sep 28th, 02, 10:54 AM
Where ever it is hitting, you have to cut more room. A Camaro that is lowered below stock ride height probably does not need as much travel in "droop" - (suspension hanging down) as a completely stock Camaro does. So, if there is an easy way to add a spacer where the rubber bumper hits, that would be ok if it isn't too thick.

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boodlefoof
Sep 28th, 02, 12:23 PM
Hey Marc!

Take a look at the photos on my site of how much I cut. See if it looks like how much you cut...
www.geocities.com/boodlefoof/page13 (http://www.geocities.com/boodlefoof/page13)

Marc
Sep 28th, 02, 12:51 PM
well John , you cut more than i cut.
You also cut in the plate (like i called it) than i don't want to cut.
Maybe i don't have to consern about it i don't know. Do you see what i mean David? about the plate and the strenght of the mount (support) ?

HwyStarJoe
Sep 28th, 02, 02:08 PM
I cut the same amount as Boodlefoof. Believe me, I was just as concerned about the structural integrity of that area as you are Marc. In fact, one of the first things I did after I did the modification was to Email David and showed him pictures. Every car that's had it done by redrilling and cutting the corners off the support looks the same to me. I wouldn't worry about it.

TEAM CANADA
Sep 28th, 02, 02:49 PM
If you are concerned about the integrity, then after cutting as much as you need to, weld more metal around, and on top of this area, this is what I did, and I have no problems, it is probably stronger than original.. I can send you a pic, I dont know how to post pics...

davidpozzi
Sep 28th, 02, 06:31 PM
It will work fine that way. I was concerned too when I first did mine. I cheated by using the Guldstrand offset solid bushings on my upper A frames. I put the offset in so the A frame was higher up for more clearance. That way, I didn't have to trim my frame mounts as much, but still had to cut just above the "old" holes.
David

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Check my web page for First Gen Camaro suspension info:
David's Motorsports page (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Pozzi/)
First Gen Suspension Page (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Pozzi/first_gen_suspension.htm)
67 RS 327 original owner. 69 Camaro Vintage Racer, 65 Lola T-70 Chev SB Can-Am Vintage Racer

Marc
Sep 30th, 02, 09:40 AM
hey thank you !
OK i'll remove more to gain clearance. But maybe i'll do later . Now everything is pulled back together.
I noticed something about the camaro : it leans at one side. driver side is lower. i need to install new hotchkis rear springs, and a geometry. It only leans a very little amount, but it does. do i have to worry ?
I don't think it leaned when i got the car, and to remind : engine is a mild 327, too small to twist a body.
I also noticed that lean before doing the mod.
It seems to come from the leaf springs but ...??
I have very stiff front guldstrand slalom springs.

Marc

PS : it will work fine that way : means as it is now if i don't drive too crazy on bad roads? :)