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Dutch69Camar
Sep 22nd, 02, 11:39 AM
I just bought some 4 piston calipers taken from a Porsche 911 GT-3. They are supposed to be made by Brembo and called Monobloc, but there is no way to tell, as some idiot used a spraycan of silver on them. They look good and i would really like to put them on my '69 Camaro. I paid $350 for them so i figure if i can't use them i might be able to sell them again.

The Porsche uses a 330x34mm (13"x1.33") rotor and a 1" dia. master. I still have no wheels for my car so all options are open on that end. Haven't thought about the brakes on the rear either.

Anybody any suggestions on which way to proceed? The Porsche weighs something like 3000 lbs, is this something to consider ? Any input would be appreciated.

Here are some pictures: http://members.rott.chello.nl/jelemans/calipers/caliper01.jpg http://members.rott.chello.nl/jelemans/calipers/caliper02.jpg http://members.rott.chello.nl/jelemans/calipers/caliper03.jpg http://members.rott.chello.nl/jelemans/calipers/caliper04.jpg http://members.rott.chello.nl/jelemans/calipers/caliper05.jpg

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davidpozzi
Sep 22nd, 02, 11:52 AM
Those look good! http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif
David

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cody
Sep 22nd, 02, 12:10 PM
Well I have never heard of the GT3 but there is a new porshce called the Turbo GT2 which is a turbo set up for road racing with rear wheel drive instead of all wheel, My dad has these brakes from the GT2 on his 77 911S, For one I believe they have two seperate brake lines, Could be wrong, also they are sequential piston calipers, meaning that first with light pressure two pistons grab, then as more pressure is asserted the other two start to grab, I think the two brake lines are for if one fails? Oh yeah on the GT2 the rotors on the front are 15 inch, and the rears are 13


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Dutch69Camar
Sep 22nd, 02, 12:43 PM
Thank David, thats what i thought when i first saw them! They have four pistons of which 2 smaller and 2 larger ones. I believe this is to make sure the pads wear evenly and should be mounted so that the smaller piston "comes first" in relation to the rotor, am i right?

Cody, I believe the GT3 is a modified Carrera 2, and i believe wasn't available in the States, but i could be wrong. Here are some facts: http://www.titanic.co.uk/GT3/

I see quite some Porsche calipers for sale around here. It seems a lot of cars are being retrofitted with the ceramic brakes ($10,000 !).

Maybe someone some ideas to get rotor that won't break the bank?

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bretcopsey
Sep 22nd, 02, 05:29 PM
Might want to drop Teetoe a line, he could probably help out
http://www.camaros.net/forum/Forum7/HTML/001263.html

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pdq67
Sep 23rd, 02, 04:33 PM
It shouldn't be too hard to come up with a homemade caliper bracket like Teetoe has.. pdq67

Teetoe_Jones
Sep 23rd, 02, 05:53 PM
That is a 4 piston monobloc caliper used on 996 turbos, 996 GT3, ect. It ues 1 brake line, and 2 bleeders, since it has oposing pistions. GT2 brakes (on 996 bodies) are not available for anyone but Porsche, and they use a 6 piston monobloc caliper with ceramic rotors, and carbon pads. These brakes glow red instantly, and never wear out or warp.
To adapt these brakes to a 1st gen spindle will be really tough. You'd be better off trying to get a spindle from Stielow (even harder) that is mocked up after a C4 vette spindle, and then using a kit from www.movit.com (http://www.movit.com) to adapt the brakes. You will need to get a new center hat from brembo, or re drill the hat to use a chevy bolt pattern.
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Dutch69Camar
Sep 24th, 02, 04:39 AM
About those PCCB (Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes) as Porsche calls them, Porsche sells them as a retrofit kit for previous models, or so i read in magazine's here.

But adapting these 4 piston calipers i got wil not be a big problem or wil it? Other than them being radial mount i don't see any big problem. What would be the best way to go about the rotor?

Marc
Sep 28th, 02, 09:01 AM
hey ! i know here somebody that equip lots of Audi's with Porsches brakes. it is possible on the camaro to install them. used Porsche brakes are worth here 1000$ . i could use my old rotors with such calipers.
There is no need to install huge rotors like in pro touring, well that's what i think. it weights more and what count first is the POWER of the calipers. so with porsches ones ...
what you 'll need is to custom built your own caliper support to set them on your camaro.

i don't know a lot more, i won't install porsches calipers now, but some day i will !

Marc

Dutch69Camar
Sep 28th, 02, 09:21 AM
He marc, as you can see i'm pretty close to you, and i paid far less than $1000 for those calipers. Off course i will need to purchase the rotors and pads, so i will still spend some money before they will be completed. I've seen brand new calipers from a turbo go for less than $500, i was just a little too late http://www.camaros.net/forum/frown.gif

Marc
Sep 28th, 02, 09:30 AM
Well than please the second time you see such calipers at that price, you tell me and i 'll buy them !! PLEASE !

Dutch69Camar
Sep 28th, 02, 09:44 AM
I'll keep my eyes open...