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: What type of disc pads?


Joe G
Feb 11th, 01, 05:52 PM
I did a search but didn't find what I was looking for.
I'm getting ready to replace the front disc pads on my 69. Any suggestions on type of pad? Organic, Semi-metalic, other? I know technology has improved since 69!
The rotors look good; no grooves and no pedal pulsing, so I don't think they need any work.
I am more concerned with stopping power, not wear.
Thanks, Joe

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dale68z
Feb 11th, 01, 08:23 PM
Semi metallics,I like raybestos,PGD's.Pep boys,Checker(CSK) They are D3ea rated,good stuff.

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pdq67
Feb 11th, 01, 08:52 PM
dale68z,

You might do a search over at Team Chevelle and see what they have looked at in the past. I do know that someone mentioned heavi-duty stuff like whats run on cabs and cop cars besides the High Perf. ones that alot of the suppliers are selling. pdq67

Joe G
Feb 11th, 01, 09:22 PM
Thanks for the help guys.
I use semi-metallics on my truck; thought I'd see what other Camaro-dudes were using.
I'll check out the Chevelle folks.
Joe

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David R
Feb 13th, 01, 06:25 PM
Use a mid grade pad youll get the most rotor life with them. If you got with a "premium" pad youll stop better but eat up your rotors faster

On the Police cars we use the carbon metallic pads the work well but chew the heck out of the rotors and make a lot of dust, so if its a show car its going to be a real pain

[This message has been edited by David R (edited 02-13-2001).]

dale68z
Feb 13th, 01, 07:36 PM
I know,on the carbon metalics,you can use the 1534 brake pad,it has more surface area than the normal 52 pad.In normal brakes pgd"s I think the # is PGD 153,it's quite a bit larger.We use them on the fleet vehicles,they last 1/3 longer.

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Joe G
Feb 13th, 01, 10:45 PM
Thanks for the input, fellas. I'll check some of these out.
Joe

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RickD
Feb 14th, 01, 05:25 AM
I use Performance Friction carbon metallic on my truck. Stock pads were gone in 25K miles and wore out the rotors, too. With these, I have 45K and the rotors look fine. The stopping is noticeable better, also.

Joe G
Feb 14th, 01, 06:11 AM
Thanks, sounds like what I am looking for.
I am curious, tho' how can one brand or type of pad be larger? I would think it would not fit??
Thanks again.
Joe

dale68z
Feb 14th, 01, 01:19 PM
Fits perfect,backing plate is the same.The 1534 is a performance friction #. PGD 153,is the same pad,just semi-metallic.Application is a 1 ton GM truck.

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Joe G
Feb 14th, 01, 10:27 PM
Interesting! My Camaro can use the same pads as my truck? 91 Chevy HD 3/4 ton 4x4; (has the same chassis and brakes as 1 ton.)
Thanks
Joe

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dale68z
Feb 15th, 01, 07:58 AM
I dont think so,I believe you have a totally different caliper.I'm talking about a truck in the 70's.The new stuff real small brake pads,thats why they wear out so fast.

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Joe G
Feb 15th, 01, 11:25 PM
I pulled the pads off today and they look good so I guess I'll be doing this later.
My rotors are one piece, and have a machined groove in the center of each side. The left pad is worn more than the right by a tad.
The brake pull to the left and the left one squeals. Thats why I was looking to replace the pads. It looks like this machined groove would make the brakes grab. Is this the correct rotor?
Thanks for the help. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif
Joe

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BIGDOG454
Feb 16th, 01, 10:16 AM
153s are the truck pad and they will fit the car caliper. The 153s are wider, and thicker than the 52s. Almost identical to the 153 is the 614 whihc is for the 94-96 Impala SS, but the friction material is thinner than on the 153s.

I am real familiar with Raybestos line of perfomance pads. If your simply looking for increased fade resistance, try their Superstop pads, the part number is SSRD52. If however, you do not feel that your braking "feel" is not adequate, like the brakes don't grab like they should, or seem to require extra pedal force, definately try Raybestos brutestop pads. The part number is BD52M. These are a higher coefficient of friction pad and are also high speed fade resistant. They require about 25% less brake pedal force for the comparible performance of a typical high-grade semi-metallic. If you need more "grab" try these, I promise that you won't be disappointed. By the way, these are currently on both my 68 Chevelles and my 86 Pontiac.

Joe G
Feb 16th, 01, 10:11 PM
Thanks BigDog. That sound like what I'm looking for. The pads now get pretty spongy when I drive hard on our local country road. You can smell the brakes after only about 10 minutes.
Joe

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rojo
Feb 17th, 01, 03:01 PM
Just put a set of Organic pads on. So far so good, stops great, no squeals. I assume these are not performance pads but I just cruise around anyway. What the heck makes them Organic? Compressed spinach or old dog food.

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Robert

'69 getting better every day... (every pay day)

Joe G
Feb 17th, 01, 09:58 PM
Are the machined grooves in the rotors normal? I can't see the purpose. I've not come across that before.
The pictures in the catalogs for replacement rotors don't seem to have these grooves.
Any comments?

Thanks, as always.
Joe

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dale68z
Feb 18th, 01, 04:54 PM
Some of the origional rotors had the groove,I dont know why.

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Joe G
Feb 18th, 01, 10:55 PM
Thanks. I looked at David Pozzi's web site and the rotors he shows for reference have the grooves. I think he said they were from a Monte Carlo? Maybe GM just had a general supplier.
Still seems like the grooves would cause some "grabbing".
Thanks
Joe

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kerrick67rs
Feb 23rd, 01, 02:06 AM
I’m not an expert but from what I’ve seen or just makes sense is the following.

Holes or groves in the rotors would

1. Provide more surface area and airflow through the rotor for better cooling.

2. Reduce rotating mass (less weight every little bit helps)

3. Looks really cool…

As long as the surface of the rotor is truly flat there shouldn’t be any grabbing because the width of the pad distributes the pressure equally around the hole or groove.

Joe G
Feb 23rd, 01, 06:59 AM
Thanks Kerrick. That makes sense.
Joe

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