Ledhed
Jul 12th, 04, 05:57 AM
My 68 sits stock and I need to bring the front down 2 inches if not more. I don't really need a real tight "sport" ride that jars you to death with every bump, just want to bring it down and cruise real fast in a straight line.
Any suggestions?
dawg
Jul 12th, 04, 06:10 AM
get some dropped spindles.
DONT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that will cause you to lose control of the car.
many MFG. sell dropped spindles for the camaro
Ledhed
Jul 12th, 04, 06:44 AM
You mean the clamps that squeeze the spring coils together? If so, I've tried them and couldn't get them on without pulling the spring, and I'm thinking if I pull the spring might as well go back with some new shorter ones...
choptop
Jul 12th, 04, 07:33 AM
The easiest way to lower your front end is to replace the old springs with a drop spring set. Some manufacturers offer lower rate springs than others, so if you want a cushy ride stay away from springs with over 500lb rates. Stay the heck away from drop spindles! They are trouble and expensive.
Alternately you could buy Moog 6308 stock z-28 style springs and cut a coil or so off. Cutting springs is no big deal so long as you don't overheat the coils or cut too much off at once. Use a cutting wheel and some common sense!
chicane67
Jul 12th, 04, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by dawg:
get some dropped spindles.
DONT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that will cause you to lose control of the car.
many MFG. sell dropped spindles for the camaro HUH !?!! Lose control of your car !?!! Alright, explain this one to the masses.....please.
First, drop spindles are not worth the headache, and create more fitment problems than any other modification what~so~ever......brake lines, tie-rods etc..etc..etc... are placed into areas where they will have interfearence problems. Take a look at David Pozzi's web page, as he runs down the gamet of options with excellent detail:
First Generation Suspension (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Pozzi/first_gen_suspension.htm)
As choptop has already stated, your best bet is to get a lighter rate, replacement, lowering spring. There are no springs that ride to a 'jar you to death with every bump' rate.....most of that comes from the bushings you select for your suspension components and the type of shock you are running and its shock valving. I run a 720 rate front spring and it is still quite compliant.....because of the bushing and shock selection.
But stay away from drop spindles, what ever you do.
Ledhed
Jul 12th, 04, 08:25 AM
Wow 720 is pretty heavy...big block? I was just checking out the Hotchkis 600s that claim to drop off 2".
What bushings/shocks are you running?
chicane67
Jul 12th, 04, 08:51 AM
Nope, 720 front with a small block.
What I currently run in my own 67, as well as use in 99% of my clients cars, are Global West's 'Del-a-lum' control arm bushings (or DSE's that operate with the same principals) with MOOG joints and tie-rods, and Bilstein's 'single digressive' shocks that have been re-valved.
However, in my opinion with your concern towards more of a plush ride, I dont believe that I would run more than 600. I think something around 500 to 600 would be the ticket.....but the 600 would be more toward performance driving. Global West sell their 'S-1' or 'S-2' spring that would fall between the 500 and 600 rate. In fact Doug likes to run around a 500-550 front spring on his street builds. I think this is plenty for most, that are not looking for maximum performance handling.
The 6308 spring with it trimmed correctly would be a cost effective choice, as the spring from MOOG are roughly $55-58.00 off the shelf. And would work great with an "out of the box" set of Bilstein's and not require any re-valving.
David's web site is something to read, re-read and then read about once a month after that. It will keep you from going over board and leaning into components that you dont or shouldnt want to run......it will keep you pretty level headed in your parts selection.