View Full Version : Which Brake Conversion Kit?
btalbot Mar 27th, 01, 07:00 PM I've searched through the forum multiple times and still not sure where to spend my hard earned money. I'm upgrading my 68 Coupe with unoriginal 327 with some power and comfort upgrades. I have 14 X 7 American Racing Outlaw mags. The vehicle will be strickly for joy riding and a little pounding of the country roads. I've decided that for time and effort a front brake conversion kit suits me and have found several that use a 69 single piston caliper sthat should fit my wheels. Any opinions on which kit is best, most complete, easiest to install? Stainlees Steel Brakes, Rick's 1st Generation? They all seem in the same ballpark in price.
Thanks, Brian
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laabs Mar 29th, 01, 07:15 AM Brian,
Rick's is actually selling the kit from Stainless Steel brakes. The other option for stock wheels is MasterPower brakes (mpbrakes.com), but I think they require 15" stock wheels. Both are really good, but I think Stainless Steel's kit will fit 14" rims. The kits are a little cheaper if you buy through JEGS (jegs.com). Steve Laabs
howard 1968 Mar 29th, 01, 07:22 AM Everybody has their opinion...I wanted to use original style components, so I purchased a 1969 new/used disk brake kit for about 450.00. I recieved the used proportioning valve, used disk brake spindles, used rotors, used backing plates, used caliper brackets, rebuilt 1969 single piston calipers(and new hardware), new pads, and new bearings. No lines came with the kit. The rotors ended up being cut undersize so the company sold me new 69 rotors at 1/2 their std price, which bumped the price up to $530.00. After searching a long time, I couldn't find a donor car, so I went this route. If I bought everything separately, I'd have a lot more cost into it. If you buy a new aftermarket kit, you'll have $800-900 minimum cost. If you can find a donor car disk brake set up for a good price, I'd go with that. But, again, this is my preference.
btalbot Mar 29th, 01, 04:27 PM laabs thanks for the info, I just found out that Rick's is the Stainless kit when I asked some more details of their tech person. I'm still torn about what to do. I definitely don't feel like buying new 15 inch wheels. I've got my dad looking for some possible donor cars up in North Texas. so we will see
Brian
btalbot Mar 29th, 01, 05:11 PM howard 1968, I appreciate your response. Where did you find a new/used kit for $450. I don't think I'll have a lot of time to hunt for a donor care and this may be another option to a complete kit. Brian
69CamaroRacer Mar 30th, 01, 11:37 AM I have been told that 82-92 camaros are perfect donnors for first gen camaros. Their disk brakes are everywhere and cheap.
JPs68 Mar 30th, 01, 01:58 PM I have read many articles on where to get used disc brake kits for first gen's. Have never heard that the 3rd gen discs work with the first gen. Most have been from 70's Montes and various other cars, don't have the list in front of me, but will get it together and submit it soon.
Has anyone else heard about the 84 to 92 conversion working on a first gen??
davidpozzi Mar 30th, 01, 06:33 PM Later brakes will not fit first gen camaros. the rotors are offset to the inside too much and the later spindle is too long.
David
DISC BRAKES THAT WILL FIT FIRST GEN CAMAROS
You can use the spindle, caliper, bracket, or rotor from:
Apollo 73-74
Buick Special 69-72
Camaro 69
Chevelle 69-72
Firebird 69
Grand Prix 69
Grand Prix 70-72
Monte Carlo 70-72
Nova 69-74
Olds F85 69-72
Omega 73-74
Sprint gmc /El Camino 71-72
Tempest 69-72
Ventura II 71-74
They must be disc brake equipped of course. I believe discs became standard in 1970.
Some of the cars listed have the caliper forward of the spindle. You must swap side for side placing the Caliper to the rear of the spindle on the Camaro.And use your Camaro steering arms.
I'm not shure about brake boosters working from every car listed. TheFirebird , Nova, El Camino, and Monte Carlo do for shure.
This is a fairly complete list.
I've also deleted four piston type from this list.
I have more info on my web page below.
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Check my web page for First Gen Camaro suspension info:
David's Motorsports page (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Pozzi/)
First Gen Suspension Page (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Pozzi/first_gen_suspension.htm)
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JPs68 Apr 2nd, 01, 05:56 AM David,
Thanks a million. I checkd out your web-site, tons of info!! Thanks!
James
howard 1968 Apr 4th, 01, 07:44 AM Brian, sorry I didn't post a reply sooner...
I got my new/used front disk brake kit from
D&R Classic Automotive, Inc.(Warrenville, Il, phone - 630-393-0009). However, I made the deal at the Carlisle(PA) Summer Camaro show approx. 1 1/2 years ago. They did ship the kit from their Illinois location. Give D&R a call, it's worth a shot if you don't want to spend bigger bucks for aftermarket or cannot find a donor car.
Balboni Apr 4th, 01, 08:17 AM I have Wilwoods on my car. I am happy with them. I wish the front rotors were larger. I have tt2 rims and the rotors look lost inside 17" wheels.
A few weeks ago I was talking with Mike Forte about brakes. Mike Forte is running stock disk brakes on his 68. He told me that he changed to a high performance pads (call him and ask which ones). He told me that his car stops just as good as cars he has been in with Baer Racing brakes.
Stock brakes are more than likely fine unless you really plan to abuse them.
Jeff
btalbot Apr 4th, 01, 12:28 PM howard 1968, thanks for the response. I definitely will check them out. I'm headed to the wrecking yard in a couple of weeks to look for some good used parts. If unsuccesful, a kit in some form may be my next choice. I appreciate every ones input. I'll likely be posting more questions and calls for advice in the future. I'm really getting excited about re-restoring my '68. BF Goodrich P245/60R/14 are on the way from E-tires (couldn't find them in stock locally), and PST subframe bushings are in the mail.
Brian
vtec Apr 6th, 01, 07:50 PM i would go with the stainless package because you don't have as many parts to swap out with there kit. they seem like good kits and i plan to buy there force 10 extreem 13" rotor with 4 piston alum. calipers when i can afford it?
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