i just got my 91 tpi in my 68, and im working on getting my belt and pullys on, i want the 68 look. i ordered a two grove bottom pully from summit and a single groove for my short water pump. the alternator works and lines up but my power steering dont. it sticks out past the second grove on the bottom pully do i have the wrong bottom pully or do i need to change the pully on the power sterring pump (if that is possible)? and i dont have AC thanks for all the replys http://www.geocities.com/claycitydude/tpi.html

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[This message has been edited by claycityman (edited 04-07-2002).]

help


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I believe there are different crank pulleys for short and long water pumps. Make sure yours is a short pump pulley.

Do you have the '68 power steering brackets?
They are different between the short and long waterpumps.

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69 Camaro Z28 "clone" - 327 AT
"461" camel back heads,
edelbrock, hooker, ultradyne,
TRW etc.
700R4 TPI transmission

the pump bracket i got is the one that bolts to the motor mount and goes arount to the frount and has two bolts, and it has another bracket that bolts to the pump and that bolts to the other one. dose this sound right? for the pullys i just ordered them dosent mean i got the right ones. do you think i need the three grove bottom pully? im putting pics of the mess on my home page here is the page http://www.geocities.com/claycitydude/pump.html?1018272919360

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[This message has been edited by claycityman (edited 04-07-2002).]

[This message has been edited by claycityman (edited 04-07-2002).]

The power steering bracket on my motor is for an original short water pump config. It is different than yours. The power steering unit sits in a cradle type bracket that bolts to the front of the block. The rear bracket attaches to the motor mount and top adjusting bolt on the back of the pump. This places the rear of the power steering unit almost against the front of the block. It is hard to tell from the photos how close you are to the block.

[This message has been edited by Mike67RS (edited 04-07-2002).]

mike i have the same cradle type bracket too. so i dont need the one in the pic on my site? if i take the one off the motor and put it in the cradle type bracket i dont think it well still work with my bottom pully. how many grooves does a non ac, power steering having, 68 camaro sbc have and how long is it? im thinking its my bottom pully, or the pully on the pump is there 2 diferent pump pullys the one i got is almost flat. http://www.camaros.net/forum/confused.gif if you look at the top pic you can see that there is a lot of space between the pump pully and the pump (when i say pump i meen power steeing pump) http://www.geocities.com/claycitydude/pump.html?1018272919360


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[This message has been edited by claycityman (edited 04-09-2002).]

[This message has been edited by claycityman (edited 04-09-2002).]

What kind of cradle bracket for the PS pump do you have ? The one that bolts to your water pump or the block ? You can check out some differences on David's page.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Pozzi/camaro_steering.htm#PS and engine pulleys (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/David_Pozzi/camaro_steering.htm#PS)

Scan upward on page to PS pictures.
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69 Camaro Z28 "clone" - 327 AT
"461" camel back heads,
edelbrock, hooker, ultradyne,
TRW etc.
700R4 TPI transmission

[This message has been edited by TJS69 (edited 04-09-2002).]

[This message has been edited by TJS69 (edited 04-09-2002).]

i go the one on the left look like all the crank pullys are 3 groove. i been working late so i have messed with it much.


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By "the one on the left." Do you mean "both" brackets on the left? You need both the cradle bracket and the adjuster bracket that are shown not attached to the pumps shown. I'm not sure, as your pictures do not show a cradle bracket.

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69 Camaro Z28 "clone" - 327 AT
"461" camel back heads,
edelbrock, hooker, ultradyne,
TRW etc.
700R4 TPI transmission

yes i have both ones on the left and i have the two grove bottom pully. im starting to think i need the three grove bottom pully

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claycityman, hi, followed your other post to here. it looks like you have the "hi-performance" bracket assembly as seen on david's site. this is similar to mine, mine is "low-performance" type, but if you have the adjuster that bolts to the motor mounts, and the cradle that bolts to the front of the motor, you should be o.k. it looks to me that the problem is your second (power steering) pulley is too close to the alt. pulley. my pulleys are factory, and the alt pulley is flat on the balancer, and the 2nd pulley (p.s.) is sticking out off the first one. 1 1/4 center to center on the pulleys, to be exact. yours looks to be much closer than that. if it is, i would say thats the problem. good luck, and if you need me to measure or check anything else, i'll be glad too.

The three groove pulleys should only be needed if you have a/c. I have had the same aluminum pulleys on a stock car (dirt track super stock). You probably will need a waterpump shim kit to get it all in line. I believe (could be wrong) part of the problem comes from the thickness of the harmonic balancer is different from the normal short water pump. You should be able to make everything work though. A little shimming here and there...

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69 Camaro Z28 "clone" - 327 AT
"461" camel back heads,
edelbrock, hooker, ultradyne,
TRW etc.
700R4 TPI transmission

shims wont work i think. cuz my water pump grove lines up by eye ball cuz i havent got a belt. i need a part number or a size for the belt if any on has it. the power steering pump sticks out to faf past the bottom pully. i cant get it to work soon the pump is coming off untill i get back to the states thanks for the help so far hope someone has the answer that will fix the problem cuz im about to crach a hole in my head and wear out my keboard tring to fix it.

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