View Full Version : Oil Filter Style versus Function (canister vs. spin on) -- 67
67L48 Jul 11th, 02, 05:34 AM My 350 engine (47,000 miles) still has the canister style oil filter.
I'm all about keeping things stock, both in appearance and in function. However, I'll switch to a spin on oil filter in a heartbeat if it means my engine is happier. That is, am I risking damaging my engine using the dated canister technology?
Should I convert to a spin on?
I don't mind the added hassle/mess of changing my oil with the canister. All things being equal, wrt engine protection, I'd keep the original canister at the sacrifice of convenience.
Thoughts pleas?
Thanks.
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John Doyle Jul 11th, 02, 05:54 AM The only reason to change would be due to availability (and maybe convenience, the canasters can be a pain). It seems the canister type are becoming harder to find in stock. I just hope they keep making them, I'd like to keep my canister.
John
Everett#2390 Jul 11th, 02, 06:06 AM Reads like you have a '67 engine, '68 was the start of spin-on filter.
Aftermarket sources do have spin-on adapter, but, mine always leaked. Maybe I didn't tighten it enough. Always had to use a large screwdriver to unscrew it at changing time.
You can buy the factory adapter from salvage yard/dealer, but, you still need to keep the cannister's O-ring in the block for sealing. The earlier blocks had a groove in the face for the O-ring, where later blocks were/are of a flat surface.
Another idea is, if the block is out of the car, turn engine upside down, clean groove with Brakekleen or lacquer thinner, and fill groove with 3M's Liquid Steel and let it harden overnight. It's creamy enough to flow flat, apply just enought to fill groove. When hard and cured, probably will outlast the block.
Forget the above two paragraphs, I went back into my archives in my mind and remembered the oil filter pad area is totally different between the two blocks, factory adapter will not work, period.
If you can still get the cartiridge, I'd keep original filter design.
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Everett 68/350/PG/11.90/115mph
oger Jul 11th, 02, 08:35 AM Trucks used the canister on 68 up blocks. They are more trouble to change but they won't burst and you can easily see what is inside them.
gheatly Jul 11th, 02, 08:40 AM Most of the canisters I've seen are much bigger than the spin on type filters most people use. I would stick with the canister type - should have more filter area.
67L48 Jul 11th, 02, 09:18 AM Sorry, I didn't specify in my post that it's a 67 350 -- it's sort of hidden in my user name, but I should have posted it in the message body.
Convenience is not an issue. I don't mind the canister.
The only issue here is filtering efficiency. Is the cannister style good enough?
BTW, I do NOT use a gasket on my cannister. The receiver plate is formed like a wedge. When I removed my cannister, there was no gasket from when the shop changed the oil. Never leaked oil, ever.
The filter element came with a gasket. So, I installed the cannister with the gasket in place. I dumped about a quart of oil on my driveway when I started the engine. Oil leaked out of where the cannister mated to the block. Removed the gasket and replaced the oil. 500 miles later and haven't lost a drop of oil.
That's weird and totally counter-intuitive to me.
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cavemanmoron Jul 11th, 02, 10:21 AM advance auto parts is stocking the canister filters,locally near me!!
but my engine is a '69 427 uses a spin on so i buy the large size spin on
John Doyle Jul 11th, 02, 11:07 AM <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 67L48:
The only issue here is filtering efficiency. Is the cannister style good enough?
BTW, I do NOT use a gasket on my cannister. The receiver plate is formed like a wedge. When I removed my cannister, there was no gasket from when the shop changed the oil. Never leaked oil, ever.
The filter element came with a gasket. So, I installed the cannister with the gasket in place. I dumped about a quart of oil on my driveway when I started the engine. Oil leaked out of where the cannister mated to the block. Removed the gasket and replaced the oil. 500 miles later and haven't lost a drop of oil.
That's weird and totally counter-intuitive to me.
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As long as you're routinley changing your oil, there should be no difference whatsoever.
Af for the gasket; it wouldn't surpise me if you have an old gasket up in the ring that you can't see. That same thing happened to me (way back when) I added the new gasket
on top of the old. The oil was spewing out pretty good. I was lucky I didn't burn her up. http://www.camaros.net/forum/eek.gif
John
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