Hey guys. I want to gut the interior of my car, and was wondering what is involed in removing and replacing the wiring harness, etc. It would be the first time I take all of the wiring out. I was thinking of replacing it with a Painless Wiring kit. Would I be making a mistake by taking on such a project. Any thoughts, experiences would help a lot. Thanks

I have a friend who re-wired his car and found that the Pain-less wire replacements were not so painless! It might not be the case for your car. If there is nothing wrong with the current wiring it might not be worth the hassle.

I decided to install the Painless Wiring system in my '68 BB. If I had to do it over again, I would stay with the stock GM wiring. The instructions are vague, they do not tell you to keep all of your original hook-ups. I'll admit I have no previous wiring experience but, this system is taking me longer to complete than any other project on the car. There has been times that I thought about ripping out this "Painfull" system & starting all over again!
But it's your call. Good luck!
Dan

Thanks guys. I really am not set on the Painless wiring. Where is a good place to get the stock wiring, and do you have any idea of the cost? I do not have the a lot of wiring experience either, but I was hoping to get through it and learn a little something along the way. I already know it is gonna be a pain in the butt=(. My main concern is to do it and not screw any thing up in the process!! I really don't have any custom plans for the wiring except for an HEI and a cd player.

Most of the parts houses have the required harnesses. Most are fairly reasonable with the exception of the under dash harness which is pricey! Unless the wires are in really bas shape I would recommend using the existing. I kept the underdash harness and the rear lamp harness and replaced everything else. Get a wiring diagram and a factory assembly manual. They are fairly cheap and well woth the investment.

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68 RS/SS BB ragtop (http://home.swbell.net/paxtonr/camaro.htm)
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Inspeccter, check out these post.
Al.
http://www.camaros.net/forum/Forum10/HTML/000284.html
http://www.camaros.net/forum/Forum10/HTML/000294.html

I'm with Al. M&H does nice work.

They can also add in the necessary wiring for your audio system.

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I used the M&H engine harness and front/ headlight harness and they were great. They were nearly exact duplicates of the originals. I bought them from Ground-up.....
very pleased

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'69 SS 396/375hp L78 M21 3.73 Fathom green/medium green interior

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I am doinig a painless right now on a 67 rs big block and vintage air i think it is preety simple if you have wiring knowledge i did have to use orginal harness for headlght system and you do need your old connectors but use heat shrink.

I replaced my dash and engine harnesses with harnesses I purchased from Rick's first generation in Athens, Ga. I believe they are by Factory Fit. The went in very well. All connections matched perfectly.

IMOP, the Painless type harnesses are for older cars that need 12 volt, a/c, blinkers etc, I would use a replacement harness If at all possible, might be a little more costly up front, but worth it in the long run, plus each splice you make to use your existing plugs, connectors, etc are a potential problem area up the road.

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69 rallye green X77 Z/28,1967 SS 396 Conv. 1974 c-10 454 swb

Forget painless got with Ron Francis wireworks, its not to bad a job i did it

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Hey guys. I want to gut the interior of my car, and was wondering what is involed in removing and replacing the wiring harness, etc. It would be the first time I take all of the wiring out. I was thinking of replacing it with a Painless Wiring kit. Would I be making a mistake by taking on such a project. Any thoughts, experiences would help a lot. Thanks<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>