Are we going back to the early 1970's where its going to cost a fortune to drive a high performance car ? It seems that just when the Automakers were coming out with super high perfomance vehicles again, we are going into another gas crisis.
I think this is going to hurt the muscle car market a great deal when the cheap grade gas is between $2.00 and $3.00 a gallon.
I definetly dont want to see it, but it looks like thats whats going to happen. Maybe I should start buying the 6 cylinder Camaro's now and get a head start on everyone else?
Any predictions beside the fact that it will cost Bush the election and my Big Block Camaro will be sitting in storage.
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Dupe, sorry.

When SUV's become unpopular, then you can start to worry. ;)

If people REALY cared about gas prices, they would start walking more.

In the mean time, drive a Civic during the week. You can save enough to drive the Camaro down to the cruise-in on Saturday. :cool:

-Mark.

well, the "new" musclecars (Mustang GT, GTO, Dodge Magnum) all get mid 20's and have powerful engines. that kind of seperates this group of musclecars from the 10mpg beasts of 34 years ago. and gas is still almost as cheap as it was in 70, when you adjust for inflation.
as for the old cars, tone down the cam profile, and get either an overdrive tranny or a little less rear gear, and knock down better fuel economy. i suppose driving more fuel efficient cars during the week would help out, as well.

The thing that really sucks is that all vehicles (new fuel injected and old carbed) waste so much fuel! Running at 14.7:1 the engine wastes more fuel that it actually uses to move the vehicle. It annoys me that even computer controlled fuel injected engines use the majority of the gasoline to cool the combustion chamber and quench the secondary burn. Think about it only gasoline vapor burns, so when the liquid fuel is injected into the cylinder only a small portion of it is vapor when the plug fires. The vapor burns and in the process starts changing the remaining liquid into vapor which then starts to burn (secondary burn), but the excess liquid fuel is also putting out the fire. All of this half burned fuel is then ejected into the exhaust and fed into the catalytic converter so it can finish burning up all of the fuel to reduce emissions.

If I could just figure a way to convert the liquid gasoline to vapor before I injected it into the engine I'm pretty sure that I could get huge mileage, even with my 6000 lb truck. The trouble is that gasoline expands so quickly that the pressure on the fuel system would be pretty big. I think that vapor would run the engine much more efficiently increasing power and economy. Oh well, yet another project.

I'm just not sure that the powers that be (auto makers, oil companies and government) are really all that concerned with giving us super high mileage vehicles. The money made from selling us new cars every couple of years, selling us oil and byproduts and collecting taxes on all of that is absolutely mind boggling. Why would they want to give us a product that actually decreased their income???

Well, it is in the nature of gasoline to be inefficient. Andit is not a pretty environmental friendly product either. They say that if someone were to invent gasoline today it would be banned because of its poisoness.

A better way to increase the rate of output is alternative fuels, like hydrogen. the only problem is that producing hydrogen is very energyconsuming. But hydrogenfuel has only H2O as emisionproducts.

Hydrogen in cars has been tested for many years and there are a few running as we speak.

It is just a matter of economics, the oilindustry is such a heavy actor in world economics that they pretty much can set the rules. And any American president wouldn't fight the big oilcompanies.

Some statistics: USA consumes 75% of the worlds oil consumption.

Something else is happening with in the next ten years, the Chineese are starting to buy cars! What would that do to the worlds oilconsumption?

And as for the present raise in oilprices, many investors are buying oil t the moment a waiting an interest increase in the USA were company stocks will fall in value. The demand of specualtion in oil will trigger price increases.

BTW, over here we pay at teh moment $5.75 per gallon :(


Jan

I was recently told by a Motorola exec that when he was in China they explained to him that automobile manufacturing has increased 25% each year for the last 3 years in China. Thats a lot of cars.