My friend has a '69 RSSS with the cable on the motor mount. Can someone give me some info on this? Is this a rare option? His car is all original low mile 350/powerglide car. He says it was mounted on the passengers side. Is this correct?

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Actually my memory says it was not an option but a recall by Chev. It should be mounted on the drivers side mount, which is the lifting side of the torque on the Chev.V8. Ive seen them in photos of Camaro engines on this site alot. I dont have them so perhaps previous owners removed it or it never saw the recall.
Im sure other more up on this recall will post here too.



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.... Jim aka Click :)
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Yup they were a lift stop that was used to keep the distributor from smashing into the firewall should the motor mount break. Must have been a problem back then. They were use allot on 302,350, and 396 motors. V-8 powered A/C cars did not use them because of the added weight of the compressor on the drivers side of the motor. At least that's what I have alway's been told over the years. As for rare. No, rather not often found. It would be a nice piece to add to your car to finish up a restoration.

Wacky

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well i think his car has factory a/c. But it definitely would be mounted on the drivers side, correct?

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First hand experience here!! It was a recall as stated and was meant to keep the throttle from sticking when a mount would break. With a broken mount you would step on the gas the engine would torque up on the driver side and hold the throttle from returning. http://www.camaros.net/forum/eek.gif

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A 69 w/350 and AC should have the cable restraint on the passenger side only. For the recall, the drivers side engine mount was changed to the interlocking type.

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John
'67 SS/RS (RR)
'68 RS conv. (J2)
'68 Z/28 (VV)
'68 Drag Car(ZZ) (in progress)
'73 Corvette Drag Car

I have a lift stop kit for a 69 small block with A/C. The instructions are to thread the cable through the motor mount tower, and attache the two eye ends to one of the A/C compressor bolts. I plan to modify it to work on my A/C big block by fabricating a 1" extension out of 1/8 bar stock.

I also have a kit for a b/b without A/C, but I don't think I can make it work.

so John, should he have the interlock type on the drivers side? What happed is the motor was pulled and he is trying to put it back stock. The guy doing the engine work is puzzled about the cable being on the passenger side when he pulled the motor. He says he thought it went on the drivers. From what you are telling me, it sounds like it does in fact go on the passenger, with the interlock type on the drivers side, correct?

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When the engine torques up it pivits on the passanger side mount and lifts on the driver side. (even in reverse http://www.camaros.net/forum/wink.gif ) Someone always asks, sorry!

Yes, there should only be a cable on the passenger side.

This is the way it reads from the "Chevrolet Dealer Product Campaign Bulletin", dated Feb. 18, 1972:

"Cable Unit- R.H. Part #330280
Mount Unit- L.H. Part #3990918
Instruction Sheet No. 330279
Usage- 1969 Novas and Camaros with 302 and 350 cubic inch engines with Air Conditioning.

This cable is for right installation only and includes the same parts and instructions as those for the right hand installation of Unit #330265.....with the cable looped over the manifold under the spark plug shield.

Engine mounting units are used for left hand installation."

The "engine mounting units" are described as interlocking mounts.

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John
'67 SS/RS (RR)
'68 RS conv. (J2)
'68 Z/28 (VV)
'68 Drag Car(ZZ) (in progress)
'73 Corvette Drag Car

I think I still have a couple NOS setups around that include cables for both sides.

Thanks John and everyone for the replys. I am going over to his shop today and will relay the info!

mike

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I don't know if I am comparing apples and oranges, but my 68-327 non-AC car has cables on both the drivers and passengers side.

Murph

Gents,
I have an exciting part for those restoring a 69. I have the original fan shroud with the original tear from the fan when the motor mount broke. Try repo-ing that!!
$500 now or it goes on Ebay!!
http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif
Everyone have a happy new Year!!!

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69 convertible
LT1 4L60E

So if I still had the shorts I was wearing when my throttle stuck WO back in the 70's, (because the driver side mount let go) would they be worth something on ebay as unrestored original memorabilia? http://www.camaros.net/forum/wink.gif I think they accually would have to considered modified when that ordeal was over!! http://www.camaros.net/forum/eek.gif

Any idea why they didn't just replace the mounts instead of the cable system? that's what I did when I found the cause of the problem...

I'm sure that it was purely a monetary consideration. The "Labor Hours" to install the cables was .3, while the mounts were .8-1.0. Given the number of cars involved (5 million?), .5 hours in labor per car would add up quick.

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John
'67 SS/RS (RR)
'68 RS conv. (J2)
'68 Z/28 (VV)
'68 Drag Car(ZZ) (in progress)
'73 Corvette Drag Car

Almost 7 million cars involved in the recall.

Neat site for all makes and models to look up reported Vehicle recall info:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/Rec1.cfm?SearchTopic=Vehicle

NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 71V235000
Component: ENGINE:MOUNTS
Manufacturer: GENERAL MOTORS CORP.



Year: 1968 Make: CHEVROLET Model: CAMARO Recall Date: 06/12/1981

Type of Report: Vehicle
Potential Number of Units Affected: 6682084

Defect Summary:
THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT A SEPARATED MOTOR MOUNT MAY ALLOW THE ENGINE TO LIFT, WHICH MAY AFFECT THE THROTTLE LINKAGE, MOMENTARILY INCREASING THROTTLE, POSSIBLY TO FULL THROTTLE.
Consequence Summary:
UNEXPECTED LOSS OF THROTTLE CONTROL MAY CAUSE LOSS OFVEHICLE CONTROL AND AN ACCIDENT.
Corrective Summary:
INSPECT ENGINE MOUNTS AND INSTALL RESTRAINTS WHICH WILL LIMIT ENGINE LIFT AND ELIMINATE POSSIBLE SECONDARY EFFECTS TO THE THROTTLE LINKAGE DUE TO ENGINE MOUNT SEPARATION.


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Jeff 67/68(2) & 69 RS's

http://hobbystage.net/camaro/hawaiiancamaro/index.html

At the time, the availability of the new interlock mount was limited, and all available parts went to the plants; until enough new mounts were available for the field, the cable restraint was used for the field recall units. At the time, it was the biggest safety recall in GM history.

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JohnZ
CRG
'69 Z28 Fathom Green

I've seen what I've been told as an early interlocking engine mount. I believe it was used on late 69 production vehicles. If so, they probably didn't receive the recall letter...
Am I way off on this one??

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Interesting thread. I have a 69 parts car, 327, that has the cable on the driver's side only. I don't understand the need on the pass side(?)

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Rick Dorion
69 RS Conv,355,Autogear M22,4.10's and I don't worry about stone chips ( yet ).

one of the kits I have is for both sides. I think it's the one for small block wih A/C.(tempted to type s/b w/a/c) Happy New Year...Too bad about the VOLS.

i agree with clill, goes on both sides.

My wife had a '68 w/327/4-bbl/4-spd/no A/C/no P/S/no P/B had the cables on both sides. She received the recall via phone call and dealer asked if they could come and pick it up, or install in place at the house.

Of course, at the time of recall, town we lived in had a population of 25K and two GM dealers, Chev & Buick/Pontiac/Olds/GMC trucks.

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Just finished restoring my 67 RS/SS/Convert and it has the cable from the upper control arm to a bracket on the left side exhaust manifold. Bob Brennan @ Classic Industries was kind enough to send me a copy of the original recall letter from GM that stated that it was a recall because of some incidents of a broken motor mount causing the throttle to jam wide open.
Cheers