Just curious, what are you guys doing this winter to your Camaros?

. . . and no smart alecs from Florida saying, "taking it to the beach" http://www.camaros.net/forum/tongue.gif

I'm fixing my transmission and detailing the undercarriage while the tranny is out. It's already on blocks. Nothing too exciting really - that's why I want to hear about your 8 billion HP 632 big block project http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif

ps. They're already predicting snow accumulations for Thrusday here in MI.

[This message has been edited by Eric68 (edited 10-29-2002).]

Problem, where to start?
1. Take out all seats and carpet, install dynomat or other heat shield so it wont be so hot inside on cruises.
2. Have Carb overhauled and choke installed.
3. Drop gas tank and sand down and POR area around axle.
4. Degrease engine area and subframe.
5. Pull wheels and brakes, degrease, sand and paint.
6. Install new gas tank sending unit, thanks to Hiway Joe http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif
7. remove vinyl chrome trim, sand rust and touch up paint there and in roof lip above doors.
8. Remove RS headlight doors and parts, sand and repaint, install new plastic bushing sets.
9. By then I will have found 6 more. Hope it spring soon.

Snow in forcast here too http://www.camaros.net/forum/frown.gif
click

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69RS 350/255 LM1, Balanced, TRW forged pistons, .30 over, TH-350 auto.,
Dover White,Blue Vinyl top, F&R spoilers,pdb, close ratio ps,am/fm,3.08 Posi., A/C, fold down rear seat
My RS www.brainerd.net/~knudsen/69RS (http://www.brainerd.net/~knudsen/69RS)

Striping the paint and vinyl top off the wifes car and changing the color( finaly getting rid of that butt ugly Martha Stewart color). Freshen the 383 if she has some spare change. 6 months of driving it, only had to replace a broken pressure plate, gotta love her.
jamie

I have an engine build up I want to do this winter.

On the car itself, Redo all front bushings(sp?). Along with that sand blast all front end parts that I can get off and repaint them.

Currently I have no radio or speakers or anything at all. That I WILL fix this winter. It got so bad I caught myself singing the Brady Bunch song on my way to work one day.

Thats it for now, but I have no doubt I will find more to do.

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69 Camaro Coupe
68 Buick Riviera(project)

I am also trying to figure out exactly what to do. I took the '69 Trans Am wing by the paint shop yesterday. That should be on the car in a couple of weeks.

Suspension upgrades are for sure - new Koni shocks all the way around and PST polygraphite bushings up front.
After that, its on to the trunk area. I need to clean it up and repaint it with POR-15 and then with the stock stuff.

From a performance perspective, I am going to replace my cobbled together exhaust system. I had to have some areas redone after the Tremec install (really due to the HUGE new driveshaft) and it looks pretty rough - the shop used a very cheap tube bender. Probably will get the Flowmaster kit with polished stainless tips and use Dynomax Ultraflow mufflers.

Other possibilities are a new intake manifold (probably a Weiand Team G) and Stahl equal length headers. Would also love to get a new set of wheels.

Finish rebuilding front suspension.

Finish rebuilding a spare 350 so I can rebuild the 327.

Look for a decent M21 4sp to replace the 3sp.

Whatever else the pittance of a a budget I get for it will do.

Refinancing the house comes to mind very quickly.

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1967 RS M3 with original 327
2001 Black Z28 convertible

Not from FL, but close enough to have good weather year round...

For the '68:

* Construct some custom fiberglass pieces.
* Paint it Electron Blue.
* In January, putting in a big block (502 or higher).

For the '89:

* Construct some custom fiberglass pieces.
* Try doing my first customized paint job.



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David
Camaro - '68 327 Coupe (http://makoshark2.com/djunod/cars/68camaro.htm), '86 Z-28 IROC 305 TPI (http://makoshark2.com/djunod/cars/86iroc.htm), '89 IROC-Z 5.7 TPI (B2L) (http://www.makoshark2.com/djunod/images/img_1141.jpg)
Corvette - '73 Mako Shark II (http://makoshark2.com/djunod/), '82 Cross-fire (http://makoshark2.com/djunod/cars/82vette.htm), '01 Coupe (http://makoshark2.com/djunod/cars/01vette.htm)

Lets see winter project 2000, restore 68 RS--- Winter project 2001 Finish what didnt not get done in the 2000 project year. Winter project 2002 fix all the past problems that I created with the 00/01 project years and get the 68 RS ready for paint by the July 03 time frme. Hey wait a minute we dont have winter here !!!! guess its just a year round project

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Jeff 67/68(2) & 69 RS's
65 442
http://hobbystage.net/camaro/hawaiiancamaro/index.html
http://www.hawaiianislandcamaros.org

Finally for me the weather is cool enough so I can drive mine (no a/c & black interior). Other plans are to finish the stereo installation and clean up the interior a bit, reinstall the tach so it works correctly, put in a firewall plate to cover the old a/c-heater box holes...yadda yadda yadda!

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See my '68 RS/ZZ4 (http://www.100megsfree.com/choptop/camaro.html)

You guys reminded me of a couple more things . . .

1. Repaint my trunk with the right green flec paint and replace the mat.

2. Remove all the exhaust clamps and weld the seems in my exhaust system.

Gheatly,

What do you know about those Dynomax Ultraflows? Do they flow better than my Flowmaster Deltaflow 40 series? Do you know if they are quieter than the Flowmasters? Just curious.

Thinking about the Holley StelthRam EFI for my 70.

Anyone have any feedback?

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Don~ ZZ430DropTop (http://hometown.aol.com/zz430droptop67rs)
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70 RS (http://hometown.aol.com/performancespecs)
67 RS/SS Convertible, 70 RS

Well, since we have been drag racing alot, the 502 decided to let the #6 conecting rod come throught the oil pan. I figured I would buy a car to beat the crap out of instead of the show car.
I got a 67 race car today. 402, super T 10 with a Ram Rod Shifter and a dana 533 rear.
1/2 fiber glass. It needs some work and it's the perfect time to buy one.

Can't waite for spring.

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502 Bob

69 Z-502
www.mobiletools1.com (http://www.mobiletools1.com)

Winter project 2002, finish winter project started 2001......... http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif Seriously, my car will be out of the paint shop soon (recent paint pics at the Hobbystage link), trimming it out should take several weeks. Then, I'll be adding a 373 posi unit to my 12 bolt, and finishing up the interior, new dashpad, headliner, etc.......Should have the car done in time for the next winter project!!!!

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John D. Smith
69 SS/396 CLONE!

<A HREF="http://hobbystage.net/camaro/69ss396" TARGET=_blank>Hobbystage Texas Tornado Website

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North Texas Camaro Club (http://www.northtxcamaros.com)

Don, you better not do it, you don't want to break your streak at the Bandimere Super Chevy. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif PS, fix that crack in the front valance.
My winter project:
383 stroker 11.3:1 CR ~480HP (complete new motor, exhaust, etc), 3.73 Eaton posi and when its done to drive it like I stole it! 3 to 4 weeks to install. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif

SNOW! where abouts are you Eric68?

Last winter I planned on JUST changing the oil and plugs....well a few $$$ later I had a rebuilt motor and new suspension parts by spring time.
Hey Steve (69RS350),
Any thing going on in your garage this winter?? I have the next 4-5 months off, I can help "freshen" up the motor. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif

Where to start...

Finish the Painless wiring kit
Install Wilwwod Brake Kit
Fire up the 307 that has been sitting for 8 years

All the stuff I didnt get done since the last time someone asked this question

Bob

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69 Convertible - Restification in Progress (http://www.ipservices.com/69camaro)

I got my windshield installed today, so now I can bring it home and install all of the parts I have been cleaning and setting aside. I had it painted a couple of months ago, so lots of stuff to bolt on.

-new bumpers
-swap all inards from old door to new door
-finish cleaning the bottom of the car where I gave up this spring
-etc, etc....

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Rob Rice
robr54@hotmail.com
http://home.attbi.com/~racrrob

Eric,

I have read several places that the Dynomax Ultraflow muffler will outflow the Flowmaster 40 series muffler. Of course, one source was on the Dynomax website.

I think the Ultraflows will be quieter at part throttle and probably just as loud at full throttle. The inner tube is perforated from the inside out, so there are no flow impediments when looking thru the muffler. The fiberglass packing should eliminate resonance.

I know its hearsay, but I read several posts on a Mustang site that guys made something like 40 more rear wheel HP simply by changing from Flowmaster to Dynomax mufflers. This was on supercharged 5.0s.

Eric,
I'm building the bottom end of my 383 (got a free crank, so i'm going to make it a 383). Hopefully i'll get to finish off up to the long block too.

Did you decide to keep the TH-350 in?
The Group of people who i learn from at the track (Bigley, along with quite of few of his friends One of which is a National event winner who now bracket races now) talked me into having my glide rebuilt instead of replacing with a TH-350 since i'll be using 4.10 gears, and since plans have changed to a 383.
Should be more street friendly, since 1st gear is "up in smoke" with 4.10s and a torque 383.
I get to keep my column shifter now also http://www.camaros.net/forum/biggrin.gif
(sleeper http://www.camaros.net/forum/biggrin.gif)

Good luck with yours, have fun!

[This message has been edited by CamaroNOTcamero (edited 10-29-2002).]

Plans for the winter include 2000 stall converter, headers and American Thunder system. These tasks were supposed to last me a while and make the winter go by easier. Well I got all the parts within the last 2 weeks and the headers are on, the converter is in and the Flowmasters are laying under the car trying to jump up and attach themselves. Gonna be a long winter unless I can come up with some more bucks. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif

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Robert Johnson

'69 getting better every day... (every pay day) (http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/tempcarpage)
350ci 700r4 3.55 posi A/C PS PDB

....Same ol' thing.... patching body so I can at least primer it all in the Spring. Then it'll actually sit on wheels again after 3 years! Wait... it'll be 4 years!
http://www.camaros.net/forum/eek.gif


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Joe
WCA Member
1969 Wallet Crusher
- HwyStar@Rochester.rr.com
HwyStar's Garage! (http://www.geocities.com/hwystarjoe/index.html)

I will be starting to reassemble my 67 L30/M20 convertible.....I should have it painted soon and the drivetrain together. I'll post some pics after it's painted.

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<A HREF="http://www.stratagaz.com/69LM1/1969LM1Convertible.htm" TARGET=_blank>My 69 LM1 Convertible
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Have the front subframe & suspension blasted, re-weld the seams and perform Guldstrand surgery, then reassemble.

Also plan to have 9" rear narrowed and install with new rear leafs.

There is a lot of sheetmetal replpacement that needs to be done as well, but I don't think that will begin till next spring at the earlist.

Will try to get my site updated soon!

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Bret Copsey
'68 Camaro base coupe
'92 Caprice Wagon
'99 Venture Van
my 68 camaro (http://mypeoplepc.com/members/thecopseys/68camaro)

No real plans for my Camaro (maybe ladder bars), but I went ahead and bought a Vega project. I will be installing a back half and full cage in it in a couple weeks. Hopefully I will see the track in about 6 mos. Plans call for a nitrous'd 383 (repairing the one I broke the solid roller lifter in).

Royce

Tranny swap....PG to TH350. I've got most of the accessories like a new energy suspension tranny mount,shiftworks PG to th350 shifter conv. kit, chrome th350 trans. dipstick, th350 dust cover,kickdown cable bracket.

Still need kickdown cable,new shifter cable,external trans. cooler, tranny fluid, and of course, the TH350 tranny itself! http://www.camaros.net/forum/wink.gif
(still checking out local builders) I hope to get this thing done before the coldest weather arrives in Dec./Jan.

After the tranny swap, I will turn my attention to the suspension. Next upgrade will be new body bushings to replace the rotted/weathercracked ones currently on the car. After new Body bushings, I will start on the rear suspension with a set of Hotchkis 3-leafs, Poly bushings, KYB shocks, and some cleaning/detailing. http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif

That's my plans for now....

Mark P.

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69 Camaro Coup-My Granny bought new in 1969!
Cortez Silver/drk blue interior
327/210hp
Dual exhaust with Turbo Muffs
Now with Pertronix Electronic ignition!
Powerglide trans.
Ugly & skinny tires!
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Search TV Christian Ministry: www.searchtv.org (http://www.searchtv.org)

sixt9d, I'm near Grand Rapids - we get the lake effect this time of year. All we need is some "warm water" (in other words not frozen solid) in Lake Michigan, freezing temperatures, and a west wind. http://www.camaros.net/forum/rolleyes.gif

Brian, Yes the TH350 is staying. I think I narrowed the problem down to the front pump leaking. A new $70 pump and I should be back in business. I don't know how but so far the clutch packs look perfect even though the thing was slipping while I was racing. I might pull the direct clutches out tonight, those are the ones I'm worried about.

Let's see...

Install my new exhaust system (assuming it ever arrives), getting my original carb restored and re-installed, installing a Pertronix unit in the distributor, and doing some little detail things in the interior. That should be about it, but I will either find ten other things to do while I am at it, or break ten other things while doing the repairs listed above.

Actually the most important thing I am doing to allow me to complete the car is taking my wife Skiing. As long as she is happy, she doesn't watch the checkbook to closely.

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Dave68RS/SS Convertible (http://home.attbi.com/~daverichard/camaro.html)
L48 (350/295 Powerglide)

Hopefully if I can find enough time,
Hang two full quarters, one filler panel under the rear window and one outer wheel well. Thank goodness for some cool weather finally.

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SCOTT
69 RS-SS 396 4-SPEED

1. Replacing heater core
2. Rebuilding 454 to about hmmmm 600HP
3. New radio install
4. Redoing all engine bay electrical and hoses for new motor.
5. Dropping gas tank and inspecting it.

Maybe some more.
----------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/mikestr69


[This message has been edited by mikestr (edited 10-30-2002).]

Well, I had planned on changing the 396 to some oval port heads, flowmaster exhaust and new intake.

Looks like I'll have another project instead. Now where is that **stang board. http://www.camaros.net/forum/wink.gif

Kel

Alright, I'll be the Florida guy to chime in...

Actually, I look forward to completing the body work on my 67 WITHOUT the 100 degree temps with 100% humidity of August. Man, I think I sweated off 10 pounds every weekend http://www.camaros.net/forum/smile.gif

Oh how I wish I could jump in my camaro and head to the beach (sigh) But I better get started on those quarters and door skins and tail pan and trunk floor and.....

Jason

Lets see.......
Finish the rear suspension welding, install the LS1, torque tube and T56 transaxle, weld in new floors/firewall.
Remove dash and install 12pt roll cage.
Remove all suspension, have blasted and coated.
Mock up spearco seats, and weld in brackets.
Mock up twin turbo setup, and have stainless headers built.
mock up downpipes, and side exhaust.
widen rear 1/4 panels for fitment of 20x11 HRE rims.
Ect.......


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<A HREF="http://www.pro-touring.com/featured_cars/Camaro/1968_Camaro/Tyler_Beauregard/tyler_beauregard.htm" TARGET=_blank>
68-LT1-T56
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<A HREF="http://www.pro-touring.com/featured_cars/Camaro/1968_Camaro/Tyler_Beauregard/5050.htm" TARGET=_blank>
50/50
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Eric, good luck with it after you fix the trans.
Hopefully all will go well afterwards.
I wish you could understand my point of view in my other post (nitrous383) i think your reading it in the wrong way.
Go back and re read it, if you're like me and read it with an "angry" tone on it, Dont this time, and i think you'll understand my point.
Not ripping into his combo so much as giving him advice that i learned from the guys (top divison 1 bracket racers).

Teetoe, twin turbos? http://www.camaros.net/forum/eek.gif Can you reveal any other engine goodies? and or expected hp and torque numbers?

As for me, all new wiring, and hopefully vortec heads and a vortec rpm manifold. Or if I find one, a miniblower. Why dont more people run these?



[This message has been edited by sik68 (edited 10-30-2002).]

Teetoe,
When you are all finished with your winter project, I'll trade you even for my car!

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1968 Camaro Rally Sport Convertible

this winter, im doing rear springs, gear change and maybe a head swap.

maybe in a few years,ill be back where winter is more than rain....

Completing a two year rotisserie resto on my fully papered original coupe. Hope to have it done before Easter and take it to Carlisle next summer.

Wacky
www.hobbystage.net/camaro/wacky (http://www.hobbystage.net/camaro/wacky)

[This message has been edited by wacky174 (edited 10-31-2002).]

I'll be enjoying the car, FINALLY! Ya see, when the summer ends in the states, my rainy season is ending and that means, SUNSHINE http://www.camaros.net/forum/cool.gif As some of you know, I'm an Ohio boy transplanted and I feel your pain and all but, I'll be breaking the car in and taking care of the final details. Woo Hoo http://www.camaros.net/forum/biggrin.gif

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1969, X-44, Export Model, Hugger Orange, Std. Int., BC Rear(soon to be a BT 12 bolt), PDB, GMPP 350HO, M22 Supercase, SSM Lift Bars, AirGap, Holley 750, FlowMaster American Thunder Exhaust, FlowTech Headers

Sik68, what's a mini blower? Do you mean a centrifugal supercharger?

EDIT: typos! lol
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Updated Pics of my 69 (http://webpages.charter.net/gulb93/index.htm)

[This message has been edited by 69ProTouring (edited 10-31-2002).]

Well i call them miniblowers but they are just regular ol' under-the-carb blowers. They are like a 6-71 but much smaller: http://www.weiand.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/AMS/SC/SCK/77-144_CSBP.html

Supposed to be a very streetable upgrade that can fit under cowl hoods, and can be run on a normal compression ratio with low boost. Weiand and B&M both make them, and claim about a 100 hp increase right out of the box and of course much bigger torque numbers since their small size is a quicker spool up. If you get a new one, you will probably spend 1700 by the time you are done with everything.

Very cool car you have ProTouring. It was my wallpaper for about a month, and I printed it out for ideas on my car.

[This message has been edited by sik68 (edited 10-31-2002).]

Winter Projects, Huh!!!! Mine has been
in "Paint Prison" so long I forgot I even owned a Camaro!!! http://www.camaros.net/forum/confused.gif

My winter project should go as follows:

Go to DMV and put in for "lost title replacement" My origional one seems to have disappeared from my file cabinet http://www.camaros.net/forum/eek.gif

Rebuild ENTIRE brake system

Pull out dying 305ci small block engine and install new 350ci Hi-perf engine

Replace 10 bolt open end differential with a 12 bolt unlimited slip w/ 3:73 gear ratio

Replace aluminum centerlines with Steel ones

Replace windshield "I cracked it by taking new set of rear multi-leaf springs out of my other car and placing them on the camaro's hood (stupid) http://www.camaros.net/forum/eek.gif "

Rewiring entire chassis "including radio"

Getting new coat of paint

Painting the entire undercariage with POR-15

{ and anything else that comes up }ect..ect....


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Chasing a dream one bolt at a time

[This message has been edited by garfield (edited 11-01-2002).]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by garfield:
12 bolt unlimited slip w/ 3:73 gear ratio

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Gonna be hard to get the car moving with that "unlimited slip".

I know you know better, it just gave me a chuckle. http://www.camaros.net/forum/biggrin.gif

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Robert Johnson

'69 getting better every day... (every pay day) (http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/tempcarpage)
350ci 700r4 3.55 posi A/C PS PDB

not a damn thing Iam just getin it back together after the subframe rebiuld and BB conversion!
I don't know why I always tear into in late spring! http://www.camaros.net/forum/confused.gif

Thanks sik68! I thought that was what you menat by mini blower. I've been doing a lot of research on blow through setups with centrifugal superchargers. Might just be a winter project.

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Updated Pics of my 69 (http://webpages.charter.net/gulb93/index.htm)

Finish smoothing out the 67 race car body & getting it in sealer.
Sand down the 72 body.
Actually, that alone will most likely take care of winter.
Rumour has it I may end up in Lordsburg New Mexico by mid January. That will cut in to it big time. http://www.camaros.net/forum/eek.gif
Hey, maybe I'll swing by and see all you Arizona guy's. LOL http://www.camaros.net/forum/biggrin.gif
You NM guy's are farther northeast than I'll be going. http://www.camaros.net/forum/wink.gif If I go.

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Steve
67 396 race car project
67 SS 396,4-sp mothballed for resto
67 RS 327,4-sp
72 RS 350/350, under current resto
69 4X4 suburban 350,4-sp
73 3/4 ton 454/400
Stevo Camaro's Toy (http://www.geocities.com/stevocamaro)
Our Muscle Cars (http://community.webshots.com/user/steve_lynell)

TeeToe, you are one insane Dude - you're livin' my dream man!

I could day-dream for hours on end about twin turbo small blocks . . . maybe one day I'll spend my retirement on a project like yours and grow old living in a beat up Winnebago with grass growing halfway up it. LOL

Where to start?

1. Entire front clip is off the car and in the trash...Sheet metal that is
2. Removing the entire front suspension and replacing ball joints, ect.
3. Drop the front subframe, bead blasting, new paint
4. Disc breaks on the front
5. Drop in new 383
6. Strip body and replace front end sheet metal, door skins, new 1/4 pannels
7. Paint the entire car, new bumpers, ect
8. New interior and dash pad, headliner
10. New wheels and tires
11. Replace 10 bolt with 9" out of Bronco
12. Spend all my extra cash

Not to bad huh?

Not much...got the r/s this spring but no garage & it's too damn cold up here to work on it outside.....well the wife's having twin boys soon so i'll have my projects "diaper,feedings,diaper,feeding,Springtime,warm weather"