View Full Version : calling chicane... pressure plate questions


jks67SS396
Oct 26th, 03, 01:39 PM
Tom (and others)

i have a street twin clutch and i may have some trouble with the pressure plate... maybe you could help??

seems like i cant get the TO bearing to pressure the PP in enough to line up the clutch diskS.. it (TO) keeps slipping off before the fingers even move. i have the clutch rod and ball stuif out as far as they can go.

is it normal for the PP to not even budge without the tranny in there to keep things straight?

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Thanks!!

chicane67
Oct 26th, 03, 04:49 PM
I am not sure, just what you are asking.....

I take it you are assembling the drivetrain again (?) and you are trying to get the disk splines lined up for tranny installation? I am just guessing here....

I myself use an input shaft with the same spline count from the transmission that I am installing, just as one would with a clutch alignment tool for single disk clutches. I got a few different ones from trannies that were old/worn/broken. The input shaft makes the absolute best alignment tool there is for obvious reasons.

From what I've read, you are trying to push the clutch in partially to releave the pressure on the plate to allow the shaft enguage the disk splines, without the trans being (fully) installed?

I would line them up during the plate torqing procedure and not after its already been installed. The loaded presure plate will be very hard to overcome and moving the (to align) the disks will be virtually impossible, it the plate bolts are already torqued.

I'd call you, but I cant find anyones number now that I packed everythink up and moved.........its in a box I do know that......LOL

jks67SS396
Oct 26th, 03, 05:15 PM
Hey Tom,

I pulled the PP and stuck the disks on the tranny shaft, once i had the tranny in as far as it was gonna go, i tightened the PP bolts down and now i have the tranny out, ready to torque the PP bolts down. the disks have not moved since i tightened down the PP.

earlier, i was trying to push the PP fingers (bor and beck) in with the fork WITHOUT the tranny installed. this was when i was unable to push in the fingers. i havent tried since.

i guess my question is : Is it normal for the PP fingers to be so hard to push in without the tranny (just the bearing/fork) or could something be binding the fingers?? I mean so hard that as i was lengthening the clutch rod (with a bar on the clutch pedal), the TO bearing actually slipped under the fingers...

if this is normal (i understand the shaft plays an important part here in keeps things lined up so that pressure is where it needs to be), then i think im fine..just wanting to know if i might have a bad PP (something binding on it).

thanks!!

whats your new email??

camcojb
Oct 26th, 03, 06:50 PM
You need the trans input in place to dis-enghage the clutch; it's really the only thing that holds the throwout bearing in alignment.

Jody

chicane67
Oct 26th, 03, 07:41 PM
Jody nailed it.

The shaft has to be there to keep the bearing centered as it will apply even pressure to the plate itself. Without it, the applied presure wont be even, nor will it help you accomplish what you are after.

If the bearing becomes cocked to one side or the other, it will not give you even pressure and it will give you a 'false' feel during release.

When you tried to push it in without the trans connected, as you stated, this is probably the point where the disks moved out of alignment.

The actual pedal pressure of this clutch is most likely a little more than what you are used to, so it may feel a-lot different and a little tighter. I can not say weather or not you have recieved a bad pressure plate or not. But I dont think so, so far. Everthing has to be there to get an idea of the big picture with this style of clutch. Its gonna be tighter and enguage quicker than of what you may be used to.....but it is a kickass clutch. Thats for sure.....