: would this be worth it ...an engine swap
Dec 31st, 04, 03:06 PM
im motivated into putting this camaro back together, sooo now im stuck deciding on a engine block size for the new block, i was looking at a 434, i <3 it so much ...695 hp the block makes , compared to a 350 which puts out about 350-385 ... the thing is would a 434 fit into a 86 iroc z or is that just stupid and pointless because it just wont work?
Jan 2nd, 05, 01:30 AM
Its still a smallblock so it should fit. Height may be a problem, get a cowl hood. Also going to need to upgrade everything else behind it(tranny & rear).
Jan 2nd, 05, 03:13 AM
yup i already planned to purchase a 12 bolt posi rear end for it i dunno what kind of drive train or transmission to buy
Jan 2nd, 05, 03:28 AM
sigh this is so hard about purchasing parts from everywhere on the internet :( hehe
I was looking to buy the driveshaft and 12 bolt rear end from this site
i lost the site for the 434 but they wanted 9 grand for the engine ...i think thats kinda steep ?
and im looking for a transmission still to support the kind of insane hps i want to put into my car
what I plane to purchase from from moserengineering is
Complete 12 Bolt w/Full Spool $1943
(less brakes) Torque Arm Cars & Coil Spring Rears w/ears Includes 12 Bolt Housing, M/E Custom Alloy Axles, wheel bearings, wheel studs, retainer plates, full spool (30 or 33 spline), Pro Street gears, 1350 series pinion yoke, chrome cover and assembly
comes with everything i need and in the end i save a few dollars ...i dont know what driveshaft to get
Jan 2nd, 05, 03:41 AM
Jan 2nd, 05, 04:51 AM
thanks doug .... another quick question
if i replace the rear end and the driveshaft ...can the transmission and engine wait until summer or should everything just be done in one shot ? ...because if so this stuff wont be bought for another 6 months or so ...i can get the driveshaft/rear end in feb. if i can use it with the transmission and 305
Jan 2nd, 05, 06:23 AM
I was trying to stay out of this one, because in one post you're talking about being so poor all you can upgrade are the fog lights, and in this one you're talking about $15-25K in motor and drivetrain upgrades. But, I guess dreaming is part of this whole deal, so...
You cannot run a spool on the street. A spool connects the rear axles with a solid piece, the spool, and therefore makes turning difficult and unsafe on the street. A spool is a race-only part.
There is a limit on HP, above which you need to do significant structural upgrades to the uni-body, such as adding frame connectors and a cage. I'm not a third-gen guy, so I don't know how much those cars can stand without major modification, but I know 700 HP is over the limit.
At a minimum, you'd be looking at narrowing the rear, backhalfing the car (narrowed, stronger steel frame rails, tubs, the whole deal), and tieing the front half and back half together with weld-in connectors.
Again, you can keep dreaming, but I just wanted to make sure you know what's safe, and maybe be a little more realistic.
Jan 4th, 05, 04:55 PM
With that much horsepower, you will need subframe connectors and I would suggest a cage. The factory torque arm will probably break. I would suggest the BMR Trak pak torque arm. You weld the new mount to the subframe connectors and attach the torque arm to the new mount. That way you won't destroy your new tranny. You will need to upgrade the lower control arms and might as well upgrade the panhard rod. Check out BMR for all the parts.