When someone advertizes a car and says Rust Free what do you exspect to see when you look at the pics. of the car, looked at one on Ebay this is the way car was advertized, but all you had to do is look in the trunk and there was at least tree rust through places. graemlins/clonk.gif graemlins/clonk.gif

It means that there is no extra charge for the rust :D

There's alot of variance in a bunch of common 'car' words. For instance 'fully restored' to some means new paint and cleaned up...while to others it means everything inside and out was put back to factory specs. Same goes for 'matching numbers', 'daily driver', 'show car', 'original' and a slew of other words and phrases that have a wide variety of definitions. Your 'rust free' is also one of those.

So what is rust free to me??? Well, techically it would mean 'NO RUST AT ALL', but in reality it probably means 'NOT MUCH RUST', or 'NO MAJOR RUST'. I would say a 'RUST FREE' car should have original metal, and be free of soft spots. If you looked at a car that had a bunch of noticible rot-throughs, then I would hardly call that rust free...because if theres one, then there are probably other areas you cant see.

Rust free? Yes, but some oxidation may be found. :D In this cases, "Rust is in the eye of the beholder", watch out.

Kyvox....Your 68 Z28 is sweet, What is the history on it?

SSupermanZ
My older brother bought the car used in 1970. The first week that he had it, he was racing with another Z/28 on I-75 near Dayton OH. Apparently, he "exceeded the recommended maximum RPM", and sucked a couple of valves out of the heads, destroying them :eek: . He towed the car to where he worked, to fix it. When my dad asked where his new car was, he said that he forgot to put anti-freeze in it, and it froze :D . He bought a new set of heads from Chevrolet. That's why it has the "incorrect" later style heads with accessory mounting holes.

1971 - Some guys tried to steal the car one night. My dad heard them, and went after them with a gun. They took off on foot leaving their car behind...a 1962 Biscayne with a Camaro 302 in it!

1974 - While driving down a steep winding hill, a 1959 F*rd crossed the center line, an hit the car in the drivers side Quarter panel. The insurance company declared it totaled, and paid him for the car. He then bought it back from them, and continued to drive it. Later in the year he got married. With a new wife to feed, and gas prices going through the roof(50 cents per gallon :mad: ), out came the 302 and the 4:10 rear end. In went a 283 2B and 2:73 gear.

1975 - This time the theives were successful (although they didn't get what they thought they were getting). They stripped the car of it's original 4 speed, the doghouse, the front seats, and the wheels and tires. The insurance company again declared it totaled, and again he bought it back. The car sat in his garage for a long time while he collected the parts to put it back together. You could actually go to the local junkyard and get parts for a 68 Camaro :eek: . Eventually, the car was in one piece again, but by now there were kids on the way and house payments to make. The bloom had gone from the muscle car, so he sold it to me in 1977 for $800.

I put the original engine and rear end back in the car and drag raced it a little (13.20ish).

1982 - I put new GM quaters on both sides and had a guy that worked at Fisher Body in Norwood do the lead work at the roof panel. I didn't drive the car a whole lot, just every once in a while for the next few years.

1992 - I decided that it was time for complete restoration, so I started taking the car apart. I got the new floor pans in, but then other things took priority and it sat until 1997-98 when I got back to it again. Every nut and bolt (except 2) were removed. About 1 year, and a LOT of money later, I finished it in 1998. I took it to car shows for a while, but kind of got burnt out on those.

1999 - My brothers son is now 16 and he really likes "Dads old car". Dad wants to know if I will sell it to him for what I paid for it (he is serious...he has no idea of what old Camaros are worth). I tell him "sure, if you have $800 in your pocket right now, I'll sell it to you". Luckily, he didn't.

I doubt if I've put 100 miles on the car in the past 5 years. It just sits in the garage. I am collecting the few remaining "correct" parts to put on it. Finally found a set of date correct heads a couple of years ago.

Well, you asked for some history. I hope this is enough.

Originally posted by Kyvox:
It means that there is no extra charge for the rust :D Just as a personal observation - "Rust" seems to be selling for about the same amount per pound as 'good' metal these days...

John

Cool story John. Glad the car is still with you. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Kyvox, That is a great story.....I always had an eye for a true 68Z... You dont see too many of them on the road.
Thanks for sharing graemlins/hurray.gif

What rust free means to some sellers: If you can't see the rust, covered with bondo! Or as others have said The rust is free! Rust free is a matter of opinion to some. Too me rust free, is no corrosion to be found anywhere period! Roger

What rust free means to some sellers: If you can't see the rust, covered with bondo! Or as others have said The rust is free! Rust free is a matter of opinion to some. Too me rust free, is no corrosion to be found anywhere period! Roger