View Full Version : Splitter block & bracket,proportioning valve finish


Gary L
Dec 7th, 04, 05:41 PM
How are most people finishing these items the right way? The proportioning valve bracket gets a zinc dichromate finish I am pretty sure.

JohnZ
Dec 8th, 04, 10:18 AM
This distribution block, lines, and metering valve are untouched original finish (the metering valve bracket, booster, and master cylinder have been refinished).

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-2/13522/MCylPipes1.JPG
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Gary L
Dec 12th, 04, 07:53 AM
Another question on this area of the car. What does the correct master cylinder cover look like?

Unreal
Dec 12th, 04, 08:26 AM
Gary,
Do you mean color? If so, it should be gold cad, just like the booster and delay valve (aka prop valve) bracket.

I had my booster, bracket, and cover done by Steve Gregori, in CA.

I can't tell from John's pic, but should the splitter block bracket be black or bare steel? If black, how glossy?

Gary L
Dec 12th, 04, 09:04 AM
Steve has my booster as we speak. He is like 15 mins. away from me. I have known him since high school.

The master cover is gold, but what does the original cover look like? I have a US master that I bought, but I don't know if it is the correct cover. I also have the one on the car. It may be the original. I don't want to toss it until I know what is what for sure. Maybe John has a top shot of the master. graemlins/waving.gif

10BZ28
Dec 12th, 04, 10:03 AM
Here's another slightly worn original.
http://members.aol.com/waynegloor/ms1.jpg

hugger_sixty_nine
Dec 12th, 04, 11:37 AM
Like this Gary, and this is all on my web site at http://www.x33d80.com/home.htm under mechanical / brakes.

http://x33d80.com/images/Misc/Master.jpg

http://x33d80.com/images/Misc/Booster.jpg

http://x33d80.com/images/Misc/Booster1.jpg

clill
Dec 12th, 04, 03:56 PM
JohnZ.. The distribution block and metering valve in your pic appear to have been painted at a later date. Compare them to the pic by 10BZ28. Look at the fitting that the wire plugs onto. His is still bare while yours appears black like it was painted along with the block.

10BZ28
Dec 12th, 04, 05:55 PM
Here's another picture. They appear to have the same finish as the master cylinder, no paint. I'm sure they have never been off the car
http://members.aol.com/waynegloor/ms4.jpg

clill
Dec 13th, 04, 04:47 AM
Great pic 10BZ28..Now can we have one of the bracket on the other side holding the distribution block ?

10BZ28
Dec 13th, 04, 07:29 AM
Sorry for the dirt. I'll try another underhood cleanup sometime next year. The last one enabled me to almost completely remove my firewall inspection marks.
http://members.aol.com/waynegloor/ms5.jpg

click
Dec 13th, 04, 07:32 AM
Guys this is a great thread, Im tossing it into the Resto section for future reference to others. Great pics fellas smile.gif

shaugs
Dec 13th, 04, 11:36 AM
10BZ28's pics accurately represent what I have seen on original survivor cars. The only variation I have seen is that master cylinders came both bare, and with a lite coating of semi-gloss paint.

Unreal
Dec 13th, 04, 03:21 PM
Gary,
Just out of curiosity, how do your two lids differ? I have 3 or 4, but never compared them to see if they were different (other than plating differences) Can you post pics?

BTW, I was very pleased with Steve's work. My booster started to discolor after two years at the painter's, and he replated it for a very fair price.

Gary L
Dec 13th, 04, 05:50 PM
Gary: I can't post pictures yet. I need to learn. I will email them to you tomorrow. My wife has the digital camera tonight. Neihter of mine are correct it appears, according to the pictures posted.

10BZ28
Dec 13th, 04, 06:24 PM
Original master cylinder top, faded but original.
http://members.aol.com/waynegloor/ms7.jpg

Gary L
Dec 13th, 04, 06:55 PM
Thanks everyone for the help. Great photo 10BZ28.

Unreal
Dec 16th, 04, 04:16 PM
Gary,
I just checked, I have 4. None are like 10BZ28's. one has dimples, but does not have the delco writing. It has "Clean lid before removing" or something like that.

One has the correct finish, so I'll use it until I find the right one.
Thanks for the master cylinder lid lesson, everyone.

10BZ28
Dec 16th, 04, 04:42 PM
An original cap says "USE DELCO BRAKE FLUID", "SERVICE WITH DELCO PARTS".

JohnZ
Dec 19th, 04, 03:41 PM
And it does not have a "tunnel" between the domes, and does NOT have "SAE J1703" in the fluid description. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

CamarosRus
Dec 28th, 04, 10:38 PM
Of course I cant find any of my reference material when I need it.......but I had read that by late 60's G.M. used little if any CADMIUM plating. "Booster" Dewey in Portland,OR who restores Delco Boosters sent me a copy of a Delco Morraine letterhead stating that Boosters were Yellow Zinc DiChromate. I would therefore think that the master cylinder lid & prop valve brkt is also Yellow Zinc. BTW for any 1970 enthusiasts the metering block bracket in 1970 was Yellow Zinc also.....
Chuck Sharin

10BZ28
Dec 29th, 04, 04:10 AM
I agree. I'm not sure about yellow zinc but my underhood components were never as bright gold as the "restored" finishes of today. I've got a few 25 to 35 year old photos that show this if I can find them.
Tom

Mark C
Dec 29th, 04, 04:54 AM
My 04L pace car originally had all of the brake components painted a semi gloss black, the booster, master cylinder, prop valve, distribution block and all of the steel lines. Of course the booster was plated underneath the paint. Somewhere along the line GM started painting everything in that corner of the engine compartment with the same firewall blackout paint.

clill
Dec 29th, 04, 06:17 AM
Mark...That is the first time I have ever heard that. Could it have been done at the dealer ?

Mark C
Dec 29th, 04, 06:46 AM
Doubt it the car was very rough and pretty much original except for the engine and trans when I got it. A lot of Camaro's have the black paint applied. I suspect most of the current restorations over do the plating on the boosters. I might try to dig thru the layers of paint to see whats under the layers sometime. The picture in my signature shows the brake stuff, but I used the Eastwood fake chromate paint on the booster, and cast blast on my master cylinder. The rest of the stuff except for the distribution block is still mostly black though. The brake lines themselves are black, but either the paint chipped off the fittings, or they were never painted. Also the rubber vibration fitting below the master cylinder on the frame does not have black paint on the rubber itself which means the lines were painted before they were assembled.

Ignoring the Offy X-ram and the nicely painted valve covers, and wrong stickers on the valve covers, the following picture is just the way I got the car in 85.

http://home.townisp.com/~markcanning/camaro/cam2x4.jpg

JohnZ
Dec 29th, 04, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Mark C:
My 04L pace car originally had all of the brake components painted a semi gloss black, the booster, master cylinder, prop valve, distribution block and all of the steel lines. Of course the booster was plated underneath the paint. Somewhere along the line GM started painting everything in that corner of the engine compartment with the same firewall blackout paint. I suspect a previous owner or a dealer got carried away with the black paint; all those components were Chevrolet-installed in the Trim Line and Chassis Line, and no painting of any kind was done by Chevrolet except for the front end sheet metal, before it was installed on the car. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Kurt S
Jan 5th, 05, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by 10BZ28:
I agree. I'm not sure about yellow zinc but my underhood components were never as bright gold as the "restored" finishes of today. I've got a few 25 to 35 year old photos that show this if I can find them.
Tom This is really easy to resolve. I have several original boosters that need replating. And they are apart. Original finish on the inside is bright. I can take a pic, someday. :rolleyes:

beeskerdog
Jan 6th, 05, 07:22 PM
Here is a poloriod of my Z from back in 1970 or so. I was the second owner but I think the master cylinder and booster were just as they left the factory.

http://members.aol.com:/beeskerdog/dz203_engine.jpg

click
Jan 7th, 05, 08:25 AM
Thought Id toss this photo in that I had saved from some car ads a few years ago. Supposedly this is a 300 mile 69 SS/RS if so, then this should be all original colors. smile.gif

http://www.brainerd.net/~knudsen/69RS/UnderHood/300mileSSRSb.jpg