Seems like this car, or at least a car similar to it, has been discussed, but I did a search on the vin and found no hits.

vin:
124379N568539
568539

trim tag:
NOR211780
211780
727 71 71
12C X77

Front clip only for sale on eBay.

Here is a link to the auction. I have not seen this particular one before. Front clip is kind of an understatement in the auction description. Really all he is selling is the VIN and trim tags with a front suspension thrown in for spare parts. This one needs to be logged as a potential re-body/fake car down the road when someone attaches the firewall and vin plate to a six-cylinder car.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=4547393041&rd=1

This one needs to be logged as a potential re-body/fake car down the road when someone attaches the firewall and vin plate to a six-cylinder car.


How is this car any different from any other car that is brought back from the dead? I know that this topic has been beat into the ground here in the past but at what point is a car considered a "rebody"? Obviously a trim tag and VIN plate seperated from a car would fit the catagory, but this is a trim tag and VIN still attached to the original sheet metal with the original rivets. I say it can still be rebuilt as an original non-numbers Z/28.

How is this car any different from any other car that is brought back from the dead? I know that this topic has been beat into the ground here in the past but at what point is a car considered a "rebody"? Obviously a trim tag and VIN plate seperated from a car would fit the catagory, but this is a trim tag and VIN still attached to the original sheet metal with the original rivets. I say it can still be rebuilt as an original non-numbers Z/28.

I agree. If you rebuild that car you deserve to have a Z/28.

I guess, from my opinion, the fact that the car has been cutoff at the windsheild pillars and partway through the front floor pan calls out to me that this car is a safety concern if they try to put it "back together" by welding the back half of another '69 to it. I doubt seriously that anyone who is looking at buying this car would go through the tremendous expense of having someone weld up the back half of another '69 to it. They would be in to the car far more than they could re-coup from it if they sold it. I believe that whoever is bidding on this auction is in it to get hold of the trim tag and vin to go on another car. That's just my opinion though.

you actually get a couple of the hidden VIN's too\

car obviously WAS a drag car (driveshaft loop)

Clipping used to be a regular practice on cars. There was some info about just this topic in one of the recent issues of one of my musclecar magazines. They stated that clipping was considered OK in the market also as this was common practice on a car with a bit of rear end damage in the 60s and 70s as it was quicker, and easier for the shop to do. I saw a nearly new Lincoln clipped about 2 years ago. Quality salvage yards now catalog parts by both fit and color. The dealership that did the work was able to get a rear clip in even the same color. The car was painted at the windshield post and about 18" on the rocker. It was washed, and given back to the customer. I personally think that was a better repair than putting in all the panels, trying to seam seal eveything properly, painting the whole car, etc. Yes there are some shops out there that I would not want to do this kind of work, but there are also a lot that I would trust. A lot of work to fix - yes, expense - yes, but feasible and in my opinion still a Z.

Ed

During the summer of 1971 I worked for a guy that did nothing but repair totaled Mustangs (ugh). He would buy one hit in front, one hit in rear and perform this exact type of repair. Cut across the floor and cut at the A pillars. He spent most of the time measuring for square etc., as once it was lined up and tacked in place, it didn't take long to finish. Findng two cars the same color was a huge bonus, but didn't happen very often.

Because he wasn't concerned with NCRS officials picking the car apart, he did not grind the floor weld for a perfect fit, but just undercoated the bottom of the car. Every car he sold, he represented as having been "hit" and would challenge the buyer to figure out where.

If done correctly, this car would be as good as new.

Lynn

That could can be put back perfectly safe and structurally sound very easily. replace a rocker on a convertible correctly is more work than that whole car would be. I questioned him to see if there is any reminants of the original blue paint. That is the second time that car has been on E-bay. I think it went like $3500 last time, but I could be wrong. I wonder if the hidden vins match. Anyone know? And actually, the more I look at it the more I think its a tag transplant.

Good point. Tag is bent. Not sure how that happens without removing it.

Lynn

I see red paint. Seems odd that there would be red paint in the pinch weld area of the windshield post. Either it has had a very thorough repaint or it was red. A bit of red tinted overspray on the side of the cowl area also. Can anyone see well enough to tell where the speedo cable comes through the firewall?

Ed

Good point. Tag is bent. Not sure how that happens without removing it.

LynnI agree. The first thing I noticed was the "wavy" tag.

Is it just me or is there a picture of a mustang in that auction? I was also wondering about that tag.