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am.mscl
Jun 8th, 05, 07:23 AM
I got a 68 Convert of ebay last week. Still waiting for it to make its way from Maine to Texas.
Pics at Pictures (http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/cp13@swbell.net/album?.dir=/21f6&.src=ph&.tok=phDvLHDBw37WHMys)
Is a real V8 and convertiable car and was orginally Butternut yellow That is about all the proof can say. Most likely orginal powerglide and interrior. Going to be fun.
Hello to everyone :waving:
Ray

Vintage 68
Jun 8th, 05, 08:19 AM
Ray:

Welcome to the "Rag-top" crowd :beers: :hurray:

First stop - 'WalMart' for the gallon jug of SPF-100+ and then on to some great cruises :thumbsup:

Looks like it may have been 'restified-for-resale' slightly and is missing a few 'convert' only pieces (I don't think I see "Shakers" and the trunk is missing the 'spare' attachment pieces and ect...) but, hopefully it will be a good driver and starting point if you plan on putting it back in original trim.
With black 'Custom' interior and "Butternut" paint - how can you go wrong ;)

Hope to see some nice pictures as soon as you get it :thumbsup:
John

hidden camaro
Jun 8th, 05, 05:28 PM
Welcome Ray... Just bought a 67 vert myself off e-bay. yours looks sharp. What was the final price tag on it? Don't have to say if you don't want..

ZZ430DropTop67RS
Jun 8th, 05, 05:53 PM
Welcome to the club!

am.mscl
Jun 9th, 05, 06:29 AM
Once I pay the tax title and license around $16K

68driver
Jun 9th, 05, 06:50 AM
Question for "am.mscl" and "hidden camaro" (or anyone else who bought their car from e-bay). Did you guys actually see the car in person before you made the purchase? I've never bought anything from e-bay, but I see several people posting about on-line car purchases. Just curious about how this works when buying a car so far away (From Maine to Texas, for example).

I got lucky and found a good deal locally on a 68 convertible last fall, but it took a while.

am.mscl
Jun 9th, 05, 10:09 AM
I was in a pressure mode on mine. I found the car with less then 72 hours to auction end. The seller had 14 pictures of the car on the website and a very detailed description with email and phone numbers listed.
After looking at the sellers feedback rating I came to the conclusion that calling and talking to the person is the next step to avoid a scam. Called and talked to the guy twice about the car (each call was 45 minutes in length). I asked specific questions that I wanted answered as a way of finding out more detail on the car and if the guy was trust worthy of actually selling the car. I feel I got lucky due to the guy loved to talk about the car and was very willing to provide all information that I asked and even more then I would have thought about.
When I called to arrange payment he told me that he had been contacted by a few people that were ****ed off wanting to know who bought the car due to they were watching the auction. May have been BS but the guy sounded honest enough.
He even gave me a recommended shipping company that I called before the BUY IT NOW button was pushed. The shipping company knew his name before I could even give to them. We deal with him all the time was a quote from them.
I will recieve the car in about two weeks so can not verify if I have been taken but the shippers called yesterday to let me know they have the car and it would be two weeks. The guy that called said "I do not know what you paid but damn you got a very nice looking car".

If I had more time I would have had a professional apprasior inspect the car for me but most of those places take 5 business days to inspect and get the report back. The price and what I had heard and saw in the pictures told me that this car was way under priced for the shape it was in.

The seller said he believed that a professional body guy had replaced the rear quarters at one time due to it looked like a very faint weld line on the inside of the truck could be seen. But nothing could be seen on the outside.

In two weeks I will know If I did great or got the shaft.

DVINNY
Jun 9th, 05, 10:10 AM
I found my car about 4.5 hrs away, so I got lucky. I didn't want to have to buy without seeing it. I drove all over East Coast last year looking.

WELCOME TO THE CLUB BRO! I'm kinda new too, got mine in February.

Your car should have deluxe interior because the door panels are, the rest appears to be standard interior, so someone swapped it out once before. It takes too many internal parts to make the change in the doors between deluxe and standard. That's why I assume it is originally deluxe.

For that $$, it appears from the pics that you did alright. The prices out there now are really up.

hidden camaro
Jun 9th, 05, 06:49 PM
Buying on e-bay is a funny thing. It's nerve racking as h3ll right before you get the car. I've bought 2 cars on e-bay. 1st one was a '69 cougar from CA. Car was born in CA and stayed all it's life + it was a hardtop so water leaking onto floors is less of an issue than with a vert. The guy selling was member of Mercurycougar.net as was I. Same as this forum except for Cougars. I got a lot of very specific pictures and talked to him a few times. Car turned out to be a rust free CA car with nothing jerry-rigged or poorly repaired. I did have to readjust every window, door, fender, hood, trunk lid and some other stuff just cause I like it perfect but overall it was a really good buy. Now the Camaro. Came in on it with 3 days left. It was being represented on e-bay by Rad-rides of Manteno IL. They're the ones that were featured on Speed TV doing up a Hemi cuda for Joe Rogan, the host of Fear factor. I called Jack Trepanier, Troy's dad, and spoke to him about the car. He could not get me any extra pix since it was his friends car. The person bought the car as is 20 yrs ago and barely drove it in the last ten years. He described the car as a solid car to restore or drive as is. Very presentable. With that I set a price in my mind and decided to bid even though I was breaking rule #1 of mine...get pictures of what you want to see. To know what I got go see my recent post and there are pictures. According to the feedback I got from people on this board, I did pretty good. Personally I hate work on a car that is jerry rigged to make it work. This car has some of that but nothing crazy. Like someone cut the wires for the back up lamps in the tail harness...why???Bypassed the connector for the wiper motor...why?? Improperly welded the trunk opening to the trunk reinforcement on the driver side or simply tried to peel the reinforcement from the trunk opening. Looks like sht if you stick your head in the trunk and look directly to your left. Missing trunk vibration weights. Seems to have original floors, original trunk floor(needs a little work)nice interior, straight on metal car otherwise. At first I though what did I do..but now the more I look at it the more I think, it's not bad at all!! Gotta remember, I'm in the repair business so I see more than most people would. If I had seen this car in person, it would have been a coin toss. Sorry for the long winded post.. :beers:

Scott Taylor
Jun 10th, 05, 08:44 AM
I bought my 1999 BMW 325i convertible on ebay in 2002. The car was in Dallas and I live in California. I had them send a lot of pictures and talked to the dealer on the phone about the car. When I flew out to pick up the car I bought a round trip ticket, just in case (didn't cost much more). When I arrived I inspected the car thoroughly and could find nothing wrong with it, of course it was only 3 years old and had 36K miles on the odometer. It was a great 3 day road trip home with nights spent in Witchita Falls Tx, Albuquerque NM, and Laughlin Nv.

JimM
Jun 18th, 05, 12:46 PM
hmmm, don't know how I missed this one, but better late than never.

Welcome from one 68 vert owner to another! Come early, stay late, and join us in the chat room some evening!

For sure touch bease when the car gets there, should be soon, I think!

reamo1
Jun 22nd, 05, 06:42 PM
Just for the record according to Ebay I was one out of a 1000 people who get screwed buying a car on Ebay. The guy described the car as a gem with a great paint job that was not hiding any bondo, showed me a appraisal done by a professional appraisal company that said the car was worth 23K and that the car had a complete frame on restoration done in 2000. To boot the guy had over 300 trades in 3 years and a perfect record and was 71 years old. Said he wanted to pass the car on to someone who would care for it. His ad also stated that minor restoration was needed to turn into a show car. hahahahaha The car arrived.
missing the antenna, no gas pedal, cracked paint all over no heater, wouldn't start when it arrived The car was indeed covered with bondo over most of the car. The car was supposed to have a power top but he told me it chattered a little so he disconnected the vacuum hose. The car didn't even have the motor for the top or the button to make it move. The only thing that was good is that the engine was pretty sound and the interior was great and it had a new top.

Ebay balked and said their coverage wont cover these items because the frame is sound the engine and transmission were good everything else is cosmetic and is not covered under their protection plan. I did exhaust all my options with them and in the process slammed this guy on Ebay which shut his little business down. He sent back 2K to shut me up. Car ended up needing over 10k in paint alone.... All I can say is beware!!!!!!!!!! and cover your A!! because there are some very sad people out there. I have vowed to restore the car and learned a lesson. I have been in business and met a lot of shady people in the last 23 years. I let my guard down with an older man because I thought no way could a man this age, this selling record and this nice be a jerk.

Let me remind you that there are a lot of guys in jail over 70 years old.

hidden camaro
Jun 22nd, 05, 07:44 PM
Reamo1, did you get pictures before you bid?? I broke my rule #1. See post above. I'm finding more wrong with the car. '68 headlamp bezels on a '67 grille. Of course they had to drill holes in a perfectly good grille to do it! Put some screws in the top well mldg to hold it down so now to make it right needs new top well mldg. I'm going to replace the whole trunk floor since the bottom of the trunk drop offs were rusted at some point and don't meet up with the bottom of the 1/4 and the center floor should be replaced to do it right. I have to pull the back seat to see if the rear seat belts are there! They may be gone. Seems like stupid little things but they will add up after a while. At $16600 I feel I may have paid a little too much. My only relief is that I'm in the repair business and right now a guy at my buddies bodyshop is replacing the trunk floor and redoing the spots on the body that were not done right the first time when business is slow and he has nothing to do. I'm personnally working on another one of my cars in the mean time. The guy who represented the car on e-bay pulled his user id not long after I bought the car. Found that kinda strange.. makes me leary of buying another car on e-bay. :( here are some pix of the car..http://community.webshots.com/photo/360964681/360968644RJgfNG

reamo1
Jun 22nd, 05, 08:54 PM
Had a lot of pics but he was pretty creative in hiding things or was a good photo shop guy. The best part was the appraisal. How do you go from that to what I received. It was a huge scam. Ive torn the inner door panels off, the carpet out and found all kinds of leaves, acorns ect. It obviously sat in a junk yard somewhere for a while and he pieced it back togther. He had it decked out as an SS but did say he didnt think it was one. Found out later it originally was a 6 banger.

I paid 23k for it. By the time Im done Ill have close to 40K in it. Ill never get it out of the car except in pleasure because it will be sweet when im finished. New Paint, carpet 383 roller, new disc breaks paited Jet black with the 68 SS stripe. The only think that will look a little out of place that I decided to keep is the 67 lower door trim. Looks better then the 68 trim against the black paint. Ill post p[ics when shes ready. Shild pull about 425 horse and a few necks....

MStennes
Jun 23rd, 05, 10:56 AM
Was the guy in Texas? Sounds like the same deal a friend of mine gotten taken on. He found the car in Hemmings and paid 13,500 for it. Guy sent alot of pictures appraisel sating it needed some work to be show quality. Hell it needed a new body by the time he was done. 350 4 speed they tried to put in hardend seats and had one way off (new head needed) tranny only worked in 1st and 2nd. The only truthful thing was it was a numbers car. The tail panel had so much bondo in it you could not even see the seams??? He also had sheet metal screws on the rear quarters to hold the bondo. We stripped the paint and found it needed every panel replaced. The floor pans were replaced by a blind guy. The rear frame rails were so bad when he pulled the rear seat you could see them starting to push through. Long story short it is now a new car with way over 50,000 invested. (he decided it was a good investment?) Anyway the guy at that time was about 68 or something and was a hell of a photgrapher and fast talker on the phone. He still swears the guy could sell ocean front property in Montana. The kicker is the guy hummend and hawed about the Quality Body Work and the tranny was fine when it left him?? But he had no real recourse as it was bought sight unseen and through Hemmings. He started legal action but decided being in Washington and the guy in Texas would be a lot of money that could go into restoring her.

reamo1
Jun 23rd, 05, 02:54 PM
That was my feeling also... He had my money and he was not giving it back...
I did get a chance to talk to his wife one day and I layed it on pretty thick and she was pretty shocked judging by the sounds of her gasps on the phone, That may have been why he sent back the 2 grand. I should feel lucky I guess.
I wish there was a sight you could post these losers names so everyone else could be warned.

MStennes
Jun 24th, 05, 12:38 PM
They do at least I think it works that way its called Scam Checker I beleave and it checks your email but if they change alot I dont see how it can work maybe someone else knows more here?

reamo1
Jun 25th, 05, 07:22 PM
You know Ill probably catch crap for saying this but I have done work on a national level for over 23 years. I catch more B.S. from People on the east coast then any other place in the country. This guy was from Jersey and I should have listened to my instincts and known he was gonna try and screw me.