View Full Version : what sway bar options are there for the factory subframe?


camcojb
Jun 28th, 05, 07:11 PM
I just put the engine back in my car. I'm running an LT1 with custom brackets for the accessories to get them low for turbo clearance. When I mocked up the brackets I did not have a sway bar yet. Now I see it won't clear, not even close; the A/C compressor is too low. :clonk:

I have too much time fabbing this setup so I'm hoping to find a stock car type sway bar or something that can be mounted a little lower. Any ideas?

http://www.camcojb.com/twinturbo/IMG_0701.JPG

Jody

davidpozzi
Jun 28th, 05, 07:51 PM
Jody,
A second gen bar has longer arms which would position the bar about 6" forward, but it may not be the right width. I have one of each and will compare them.

By the way, Awsome engine!!!

camcojb
Jun 28th, 05, 08:07 PM
Thanks David, was hoping you'd take a peek. I've also thought about some stock car splined units but not sure how they fit on this subframe. Plus you move them forward it changes the ratings (longer arms).

I'm kinda lost, but I'll figure it out.

Jody

Mark C
Jun 28th, 05, 08:11 PM
67 and 68 Camaro sway bars also have longer arms on the end and the bushings mount further forward. The bar across the car is probably 4 inches further forward than a 69 bar. Don't know if thats enough space for what you need or not but you won't have any width issues

camcojb
Jun 28th, 05, 08:15 PM
4" is way more than I need I think. Does it not go through the frame like the 69's? Seemed like it didn't have nearly that much room in the slot to move forward, but I need to go look again.

Thanks!

Jody

JimM
Jun 28th, 05, 09:19 PM
Jody, I just eyeballed my 68, if your engine was in my car (mmmm, can I can I pleeeze?) the swaybar would pass right thru the compressor. It runs directly under the balancer, sorry...

The "stock car / Race car" 3 peice bar with the splinedarms is going to be the ticket. Pretty sure these bars are straight, you'll have to find a location it will pass straight thru, figure the arm length, multiply for the leverage, back it into the standard fit first gen bar you were going to use and figure the desired diameter. Lots of applications for these types of bars, anything from hobby stocks to 1000 hp sprint cars, what you need will be there.

Bet if you posted the diameter and arm length of the bar you were going to use, along with the new arm length you have to use, one of our engineering types will get out his slide rule and shoot you a diameter.

camcojb
Jun 29th, 05, 11:51 AM
Thanks Jim. I ended up talking to David at Hellwig (http://www.hellwigproducts.com/faq/) and he can custom make one that will clear. I'm going to try his standard bar first as it may work, but if not I'll have them build me one. Super people, and thanks to Tyler for a thread I found saying they build custom bars.

Jody

davidpozzi
Jun 30th, 05, 12:14 AM
Jody, a custom bar is a good idea, just put a hiccup in the bar where the compressor is. You could probably build one out of conduit as a sample.

Mark, I've worked on 67,68, and 69 antiroll bars, they are identical.
I compared the first gen and second gen bars I have and the eyes are exactly the same spacing, the second gen arms are 5" longer than a first gen measuring to the mounts, but the main bar between the mounts is 5.75". The problem is, the second gen frame rails are more narrow so this bar would hit the frame rails on a first gen.
David