There is a 69 327 convertable that has been sleeping on a guys front lawn for about the last 5 years. I have been asking him about it for some time and until now has blow me off. The car "looks" to be numbers matching, so I assume it is. I don't know for sure yet. It has some rust from sitting outside for so long, and needs interior work. I also assume it needs some engine and suspension work. The guy is figuring out a price for me now. Can someone give me a ballpark for what this car would be worth when it top shape if numbers matching 327 vert? Thanks in advance.

Here's what the experts say...

http://www.nadaguides.com/

How in the world does a car "look" like matching numbers ?

Also subtract $2000 from purchase price for blowing you off in the past ! :)

Based on what I've seen lately expect $15K or more. It seems everyone knows these cars are classics and typically will ask for the moon... And sadly will get it if they hold out for a while!

Hey Dennis, I'll give you 15K for yours.

The engine appears to be old and original, but I will not know until I get the #'s off it. Everyting else on the car is original like the paint, badges, interior, etc, so I am assuming the motor and trans are also. 15k in top shape? I'm sure this guy is gonna try and get at least 6 or 7 grand for it. I'm not sure it will be worth it......Between the bodywork, paint, and interior. Considering the car has been sitting and rotting for so long I'm sure the motor will also need some refreshing. If I decide to pass on this project, is anyone else interested? If so I will get as many details and pics of the car as I can.

In top shape a '69 convertible will net 25K to 30K for a base coupe. A good project car will net 10K.

The engine appears to be old and original, but I will not know until I get the #'s off it. Everyting else on the car is original like the paint, badges, interior, etc, so I am assuming the motor and trans are also. 15k in top shape? I'm sure this guy is gonna try and get at least 6 or 7 grand for it. I'm not sure it will be worth it......Between the bodywork, paint, and interior. Considering the car has been sitting and rotting for so long I'm sure the motor will also need some refreshing. If I decide to pass on this project, is anyone else interested? If so I will get as many details and pics of the car as I can.

No $15K for a decent project ragtop. Back in '99 I looked at several survivor 1st gen ragtop project cars and all were $10K - $12K back then when I thought they were worth $5k -$7k at best. Today a matching numbers survivor coupe 327 car needing full restoration is bringing $10K+ and ragtops in the same shape are in the $15K+ range.

I should add, the amount of body work / panel replacement is the biggest factor here...

In top shape a '69 convertible will net 25K to 30K for a base coupe. A good project car will net 10K.

I can't resist Scott!! Have you been out in the sun too much without a hat? :thumbsup:

No...Today a matching numbers survivor coupe 327 car needing full restoration is bringing $10K+ and ragtops in the same shape are in the $15K+ range.

I should add, the amount of body work / panel replacement is the biggest factor here...

DjD - maybe out here on the 'left-coast' where Nature doesn't hate steel - but, in some of the other areas I seem to see "projects" selling for $5k(+) less than for some of the 'rust-free-California-cars' we tend to see locally.

If, as can be the case with many Rust-Belt vehicles, the only thing holding the car he's refering to up is the grass under it - he may be able to get a better starting price than normal.
I'm not suggesting he 'Low-Ball' the guy.
I'm hoping he does get a good price just for the sake of getting it into a loving enviroment so it can be saved if possible :thumbsup:

As always - JMHO...
John M

Over ten grand for a 69 ragtop project? I'm still waiting for the call to see how much he's going to ask for it. Then I gotta go and get the numbers off the motor. I just hope he doesn't see this thread and asks 6 or 7. I also was a bit confused by convertable.......base coup :clonk:

John - you're right that projects cars can be found for less but you missed a huge portion of what I stated... We are talking about an all orig factory drivetrain survivor that needs a restoration but has good metal with little more than a dent or two and surface rust.

Sincity - Scott knows the difference, it was a thinking, typing and eating a donut all at the same time thing and he slipped on the keyboard. ;)

Sometimes I forget how to get home, so I can relate. :D

Gotta call this Utah '67 a project and it might be an orig drivetrain... $15K and not at reserve. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=4558526068&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

How's this for scarry, lets see where it gos in 6 days... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=4558937202&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Bet the reserve on this one's over $10k... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=4558499262&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

See where this one goes, I've seen enough in the pics to feel this one has a ton of hidden problems, definate project and $12K reserve not met... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=4558266108&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

That's some of the better stuff out there, at least on e-bay and bet your power top most anyone sitting at home with a computer and a camaro in the back yard on blocks is doing their homework via ebay...

Dennis - :rolleyes:

I'm surprized at you - :D
Using "E-bain" for 'comps' :confused:
We all know the "bargains" that can be found on there... :sad:

Here's some from this good-ol-site :thumbsup:
http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=817&sort=1&cat=7&page=1

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=316&sort=1&cat=7&page=6

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=272&sort=1&cat=7&page=7

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=315&sort=1&cat=7&page=6

I agree with your post - really - the other was just my opinion, nothing more.
We really don't know that this is a numbers matching, rust-free (or mostly rust deleted) restorable car yet - so I was just throwing that out there, knowing how most of these trecks to go see "easy" project cars goes - at least in my experiences.

Looking forward to seeing how this plays out!
Still how he wins the lottery on this one :beers:

John

Sincity - Scott knows the difference, it was a thinking, typing and eating a donut all at the same time thing and he slipped on the keyboard. ;)

It was a NOT thinking, typing and eating a bluberry muffin thing. What I meant of course was base model not base coupe.http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-003.gif

WOW.

I'm feeling better and better about what I paid for mine.
In my signature, I have all my pics, current and back to when I bought it.

I still consider mine a project, but I feel WAY better off than those links above.

15K for a 6 cylinder? Really?

Dennis - :rolleyes:

I'm surprized at you - :D
Using "E-bain" for 'comps' :confused:
We all know the "bargains" that can be found on there... :sad:

Here's some from this good-ol-site :thumbsup:
http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=817&sort=1&cat=7&page=1

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=316&sort=1&cat=7&page=6

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=272&sort=1&cat=7&page=7

http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=315&sort=1&cat=7&page=6

I agree with your post - really - the other was just my opinion, nothing more.
We really don't know that this is a numbers matching, rust-free (or mostly rust deleted) restorable car yet - so I was just throwing that out there, knowing how most of these trecks to go see "easy" project cars goes - at least in my experiences.

Looking forward to seeing how this plays out!
Still how he wins the lottery on this one :beers:

John

Well where else do you think the non TC population is going to reference pricing to turn their rust into gold... Ebay sets the standard more than folks give credit. I realize there are deals to be had, they are fewer and farther between though.

As for the links here on TC, one you reference has no engine and trans and has set for 25 years for $9500, the other for $9500 has the orig 307 but needs floors, trunk pan etc but frame rails are good! That's scarry, I don't think you can bring either of these up to what I described for $15K without spending more than $6K to get them there! Same for the other 2 lesser expensive cars shown and that's forgoing matching numbers except teh 307 car... As we say but is often not heeded "let the buyer beware"!!

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Just got an email from a friend that is selling his 1969 original engine 307 red/red/white convertible (with docs) and he was asking me for a ballpark price. I quoted him $20K to $25K. It is not a project and is solid with little to no rust and presents very well. But it is a base model, column shift turbo 350, no console, manual top, but 4 speaker 8 track system! Guess the original owner spent all the extra cash for the sound system :)

So to put this car in with the projects, the difference between the projects and finished cars is $10K - $15K? you can barely get the metal work done for that much, forget about paint!

Just got an email from a friend that is selling his 1969 original engine 307 red/red/white convertible (with docs) and he was asking me for a ballpark price. I quoted him $20K to $25K. It is not a project and is solid with little to no rust and presents very well. But it is a base model, column shift turbo 350, no console, manual top, but 4 speaker 8 track system! Guess the original owner spent all the extra cash for the sound system :)

So to put this car in with the projects, the difference between the projects and finished cars is $10K - $15K? you can barely get the metal work done for that much, forget about paint!
That's why it's always more cost effective to buy a finished car, but many of us want to do it ourselves and know exactly what's hiding under the paint.

DVINNY- I checked out your pics and it looks like you've done a nice job finishing it up! Did you have it completely repainted or just add the stripes? Your car looks like mine with the top cut off! I have a red on red car with white Z-stripes also and though about going with a partially white interior as you did. Yours look real good like that. I already had new red door panels and though just white seats would look too out of place so I did it back to all red. WIth the white panels and top boot, it looks very nice. Good job.

I thnk this cat is blowing me off again. He told me months ago to call him back at the beginning of the summer if the car had moved from it bed of the last 4 or 5 years. Two days ago he tells me he'll sleep on a price and call me back. Now he won't answer my calls. What a shame. I just hope it doesn't sit uncovered for another 5 years. Thanks anyways for the info. I am stunned at how much a 69 convertable 327 project goes for. Is it because it's a 69 or what? Do the 67's and 68's hold the same value?

Thanks, sicsD8.

I did not re-paint it all, I just put the stripes on. I know the white is not original, but after thinking about it, I went with it anyway. It looks much better.

Besides, my white top, white stripes, front spoiler, back spoiler, and engine are not original, so why worry about the interior?

I want to put all new quarters, fenders, and doors on it in a few years, then do a full repaint. My metal now is almost perfectly solid (other than two areas in passenger door bottom the size of quarters). BUT even though it's solid, it has alot of waves in it.

I am stunned at how much a 69 convertable 327 project goes for. Is it because it's a 69 or what?
Do the 67's and 68's hold the same value?


No - 68's are worth m-u-c-h more... ;)


Sorry to here he's still 'sleepin-on-it' - keep us posted.

John