According to the 1969 Camaro Factory Assembly Manual, all 396/427s with air conditioning were fitted with this shield (item 3, GM#3949856). See page 207, C60/B4.
I have never seen one seperately, or on a factory 396/air-con Camaro.
Is this a part that was going to go into production and then cancelled at the last minute, or have I been looking in all the wrong places?
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Well, I'd like to know the answer to this one also. I know of two people on this forum, including myself, that have been looking for one. I've been looking for over 3 years and all the "hard to find parts vendors" seem to never come across these. From what I've been told they are made of plastic, so with that information I would say someone has seen/held one before. I would imagine if any ever come up on ebay there would be at least 4 people fighting it out to the bitter end. :thumbsup:

Kinda looks like the 1 on my 70 Nova
http://1stgencamaro.net/images/deflector.jpg

Sure does look the same.. Is your Nova a 396 air-con car?
And are the radiator supports the same as Camaro? If so, I'd expect it to fit..
I wonder if it has a moulded part number on it..

Sure does look the same.. Is your Nova a 396 air-con car?
And are the radiator supports the same as Camaro? If so, I'd expect it to fit..
I wonder if it has a moulded part number on it..
Nova is 307 air car...built 10/6/69 I'll see if I can find a number on it... coresupports are different btw nova and camaro, but lower center section maybe the same

I've been looking for that part for 7 years.........I've never seen one or talked to anyone who has.

Well, I'd like to know the answer to this one also. I know of two people on this forum, including myself, that have been looking for one......

.......... I would imagine if any ever come up on ebay there would be at least 4 people fighting it out to the bitter end. :thumbsup:

Probably a whole lot more. I'd go for one of each, Camaro and Nova. :cool:

Part numbers are 3940212 Nova and 3949856 Camaro.

Gene, is the one on your Nova plastic or steel?

Jon
Nova is plastic, goes from lower rear edge of bumper to coresupport center section.

Gene, does it not go from the rad support to the subframe like in the Camaro diagram?

On the Nova it goes from the bumper (attached with a couple metal clips)
and goes to the front (skinnier) crossmember on the subframe.
The shield is plastic and different between Nova and Camaro.
If you see to small holes in the crossmember about the size for a
3/8" headed lag screw, then the car had one.
Not all Nova A/C cars got them, I've seen them on SB & 6 cyl cars but never thought to be checking assembly plants.
The Camaro one appears to go to the Rad. Support in the picture and is shaped quite different then the Nova.
If anyone has one for a Nova PM me!

yes it exist my car built 12B68 has one

yes it exist my car built 12B68 has one
Ever think about making a casting of that part and building a few repros? I'd be willing to let go of a franklin or two. :)

Hey Mark, how about a pic.

I second the idea of making a couple of "extras". I would be willing to go to the bank for some of the same Franklins.. PLEASE give a thought, there is PLENTY of money to be made. PS we need a simlie of someone begging on their knees

i am trying to get pics scanned to post,i dont have a scanner so it might take a few days.sorry for the delay

I second the idea of making a couple of "extras". I would be willing to go to the bank for some of the same Franklins.. PLEASE give a thought, there is PLENTY of money to be made. PS we need a simlie of someone begging on their knees
http://www.royal-orleans.com/phpBB/images/smiles/eusa_pray.gif

i have the pics if someone could help me post them please

i have the pics if someone could help me post them please
Mark
e-mail them to me and I will post them

Most any sheet metal shop should be able to make one. Even from .090 alum, put some wrinkles in it to prevent oil-canning, or 20-ga steel and paint black.

May not be exact, but, do the same function.

Somebody do a plate with dimensions, I'll mail it to my local shop and see what he has to offer.

Here is Marks' Pic

http://1stgencamaro.net/albums/album15/air_deflector.jpg

http://1stgencamaro.net/albums/album15/air_deflector2.jpg

http://1stgencamaro.net/albums/album15/air_deflector3.jpg

Mark

what did you use to repair the original? or did you find a replacement? The one on my nova has a couple of cracks

Well, I'll be.. :eek:
I wonder why this part has become so rare.
..and why it hasn't become a repro part yet considering how simple it would be to duplicate.
Maybe the overall demand is not very large, but I bet if Classic listed it, it would sell like hot-cakes.

I would take one if someone reproduced them.

Here's an idea. What if you take spray foam and form a large area of the stuff. Take and cover the shield with plastic wrap and push it into the wet spray foam. Let sit over night and you might have a form in the morning. Now you just need something to spray into the form to create the plastic part. Something that won't sag when the sides are formed.

Any other ideas?

Mark

what did you use to repair the original? or did you find a replacement? The one on my nova has a couple of cracks
the original was missing the back part at the bend.so i made a wood mold to make this one. wood cools the plastic to fast when forming and makes it hard to get a good part because it shrinks the part smaller than the mold .a cast aluminum mold would be best but very expensive. i made this about 15 years ago but i will look into a new mold.gene thanks for helping with pics i have more if you want.

Yummy yummy yummy. :thumbsup:

I'll take one for a Camaro and one for a Nova please.

I would be happy to help any way I can to get some made... I have a org air deflector from a sm blk 70 nova available for mold making.... Now who is the mold making expert??? I wonder if a fiberglass mold would be the way to go?

Mark
since you have been down this road before, what materials did you use to repair/build yours?

the guy who vacuum formed mine said it was polyethylene.fiberglass wont work because the part is heated to about 450 degrees.themold needs to be aluminum,epoxy,or wood .the mold has to be made oversize to allow for shrinkage,which makes it harder to figure how much bigger,and also means you cant make mold diretcly off old part .this part was formed from a sheet about 48x36 then trimed toshape on the edges and slots put in.if anyone knows vacuum forming please add to this.

Would it not be possible to make an upper and lower die out of wood an press a piece of sheet in a home press? or a jig with a couple of floor jacks or..?
I thought cold forging would be an easier option.

Would it not be possible to make an upper and lower die out of wood an press a piece of sheet in a home press? or a jig with a couple of floor jacks or..?
I thought cold forging would be an easier option.
no the plastic has to be heated to form,the wood mold i made took three tries to get one part.when the hot plastic is pulled down over a wood mold it can start cooling on contact because wood cant be preheated as good as aluminum or epoxy.the first two parts ,one tore and lost vacuum and quit forming hte other cooled and couldnt pull on down.

I meant for making one out of sheet metal, Mark. :)

More pics from Mark......

http://1stgencamaro.net/albums/album15/air_deflector4.jpg

Sweet Car....
http://1stgencamaro.net/albums/album15/air_deflector_car.jpg

Mark

what did you use to repair the original? or did you find a replacement? The one on my nova has a couple of cracks
gene for your cracks try a plastic supply co. look for weld on brand it comes in different thickness,water thin kind might work best for cracks.ask for glue to use on polyethylene.take part with you if possible.

I meant for making one out of sheet metal, Mark. :)sorry i misunderstood,i made an aluminum one to check the dimensions before i made the wood mold for the one in the pics.since some of you are interested in a part i will look into making a new mold to make us some.

Mark (or anyone else), any progress with making a copy of the afore-mentioned shield?

If there is anyone who has one of these shields, would you be able to post a detailed list of dimentions & angles and possibly pictures too please??

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