This car (I'm using the term loosely) was bought and then sold by someone who frequents this site about a month ago for 14,500. You can buy it now for a mear 25K:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4570248127&ru=http://motors.search.ebay.com:80/4570248127_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsacatZ6000QQcatrefZC5QQ fromZR7QQnojsprZyQQpfidZ0QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQfclZ3QQ frppZ50QQfviZ1#ebayphotohosting

There isn't a piece of useable sheetmetal left on this car, and people are actually bidding on it. When will the insanity end.

I think my definition of a 'survivor ' is different.

I passed on that one from here...very rusty (and that's alot for ME to say). Maybe I should have bought it.

Someone that doesnt know what it takes to restore a car will buy it.Or someone that doesnt care what it costs.It really is crazy what people will pay for a car.I dont see how you could ever come out financially on that car.It would cost way more than it would be worth to restore it.

Hmm, I disagree slightly. I see some potential here for the right price. Many of the "hard to find" parts are there. The metal seems to be the issue and what I can see from the pics might not be too difficult if some good used/or nos original metal could be found. My Chevelle was worse and now you would never know the car ever had rusted out everything (learned a lot about welding on that one). I don't think I'd go much higher then the 14-15K. Pump about 20-25K into it (parts/material only, labor would be all me) and you'd have a hell of a Z (if the #'s are in fact original, which is probably the case).

Maybe I look at things differently :) . I tend to see the finished product through all the rust. :clonk: I'd need to see the car in person first to judge how high I would go. I think I'll watch that one for a while.

If you could do the metal work yourself maybe.It would take $25k or more to have it done professionally and you still have to have everything else done on the car.You would have atleast $50k in the retso plus $25k to buy it.To sell a car in the $50k to $100k they have to be flawless.Jerry Mcneish flawless not got a deal on body work and paint from a friend.I have to agree with Mark insanity.JMHO not meant to offend anyone.

Hate to say it...but this would be a prime candidate for a "rebody" for someone...Maybe that's what some of the bidders plan to do. Think about all of the high dollar components: A mostly complete matching DZ 302 including carb,all pullies and accessories plus matching Muncie.($8-9K?)Matching 12 bolt posi rear($2000?), RS Wiper/washer($700-$800) motor, "Real" rallies presumably with the correct dates? etc.etc.etc. Has to be an EASY $12K or more just for these parts. Not to mention a real GM console and gauges! $25K is too steep IMO, but at $14-$15K, it might make sense, especially to someone with a solid 69' body waiting in the wings. Could be a whole lotta swappin goin on!

Hope it sells quick before it turns to dust. Can rust turn to dust, maybe not, oh well.

The pics I saw on this site were much more disclosing. No offense to whom ever owns it now.

That car has been making its rounds on the internet/eBay. Switching hands often, and the price keeps going up with each owner.

$25K is too much IMO. Of course it can be built, and being a #s RS Z, itll be worth some coin when done. Building one now thats a much better car, and was bought for about half that price. But theyre sure not getting easier to find.

dave

The only thing that car survived was an early trip to the crusher.

It can be repaired, just with a ton of time and money.

that car looks more like it was found at the bottom of a lake.

sure, the ouside skins can be replaced but the inner framework has got to be shot. i bet if you acid dipped that car you'd end up with very little to work with let alone to weld to. it'd be so patched up in the end, no matter how deep you dug, and the rust would still come back to haunt you in a very short time.

buy a new shell and transfer the usable/salvageble parts and you'd still loose on that one.

just my opinion.

I sure would like to have it and that said, not even for 10K because it would cost "ME" way to much to fix it. I hope someone gets her and puts it back to her former glorry that can afford it.

It sure does look like it's going back to it's earthy origins though. It's bio-degrading.

Joe

Good Lord, this is tempting me to do the dreaded Ebay thing! I love my Z, but if someone would give 25K for that, another 10-15 for mine ( exc.int,great body, all the #s,needs paint and some spiffing-up, etc.) sounds like a screamin' deal I couldn't refuse!!! Well, mostly 'cause the wife wouldn't let me refuse! ;) ;) nudge nudge, say no more say no more!

If someone was really into welding, I think money could be made on this one. We have all seen worse cars on this site. If I bought this car, it wouldn't be to turn a quick buck (that's for sure), but spend some years slowly fixing it up, then when you're done, it should be worth 50K+.... I just don't have the patience for such a huge undertaking :D

Dano

Does that engine stamp look legit? Has anyone verified the numbers?

Looks like Rich still has his pics up.

http://www.69lm1.com/69rsz

I looked into a '67 Firebird Convert back in '83 or so that was up in Southbend, IN that wasn't fixed up yet and the guy wanted $3,000 for it! You could see through the lower doors and fender areas all around it!!

Anyway, long story short, he/somebody fixed it up using screen-wire, bondo and newspapers!

I think it is now in Macon, MO b/c there is one up there that is almost identical to the one I saw way back in 'the '80s and last time I looked at it showed like it had had the same thing done to it b/c at that time it was coming unglued back by the lower rear fender areas!

Bright red car with a black convert. top!!

Beware!!

Take a magnet with you and realize what a "ding-ding, thud" sounds like if you want to inspect one that has been done this way!!!!

Bad, bad, bad!!!

pdq67

Somebody help me here. The cowl tag reads "1C". The engine is 1/26, and the rear is listed as being 1/30. Is this too late for a "1C" car or not? Just curious I guess.

I dont know, id say a little bondo and some new spark plugs and your ready for sunday cruisin. Dont know what you guys are seeing... :clonk:

This is a perfect car for the Dynacorn convertible body. For a total investment of about 30K you can be the owner of the exclusively rare, one off, executive's daughters, Z28 convertible! Only one was ever built and it has just now surfaced in a barn in Michigan. As the story goes, the beloved daughter ran off with a carny and broke dad's heart. She hasn't been heard from since and dad just parked the car waiting for her return. Dad has since passed away, the old farm was sold and the barn had rotted away around the car. An out-of-work hotdog vendor took on the job of clearing the land for a developer and found the car, rotting in the now collapsed barn. He sold it to a salvage yard where it was saved by a worker who dragged it home. The workers mother (yep, he lived with mom still) was so upset, she demanded he remove that junk from her home. After all was aid and done, the worker learned the car upset his mother as it reminded her of the car her dad bought for her before she ran off with her boyfriend, the workers father.

What an imagination.

Total rust bucket.


I can't imagine buying that.

that car looks more like it was found at the bottom of a lake.

Agreed, shoulda stayed there.

Too much gear lube on the trans case for 37K. Also, too much grease oozing out from the ball joint boots for 37K.

"sure, the ouside skins can be replaced but the inner framework has got to be shot."

Actually the underside of the car has almost no rust. Most all of the floorpans are solid and the frame rails are (I dare say) pristine.


Ok, Ok. Here are my observations on the car, as I owned it for a whopping 7 days (or 1 day, but had it 7 until the carrier picked it up).
I do not know the new owner and have no interest in this car whatsoever.

This is from a friend of mine on the coast, who was around that the time.
Don:
Yes, this car does only have 37k miles. However, for that 37k miles it was ran HARD in Mississippi. The kid painted it that lovely shade of blue? shortly after getting the car. It was known to drag at a moments notice, and the engine was "broke" a long time ago and the car was sat up. The kids family moved shortly thereafter. Many people were looking for this car when the prices started rising.
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It turns out the car was still at the second house, in the back yard, a couple of counties over, near a paper mill. When the "kid" (now in 50's?) sold the house, he "gave" the rust bucket in the backyard to the home purchaser. The car had been on blocks the whole time. This person, who was a mopar guy, sold it to another mopar guy, back in ocean springs, MS (rumor is $2,000). That person removed the rally's to put some rollers on the car, and the rallys were stolen from in front of the house. That person sold it to me for $8,500.00, and I sold it for $14,500.00 the same day I got it home (or the next day if you count the "purchasing" call that was after midnight).

Now (Darren X-33), no need for anymore hate mail, I got enough.
I bought the car to resell and never told anyone any different. I just invested in an auto repair shop, and this was a nice infusion of cash. I have no regrets and hope that the new owner gets what he is looking for out of it. This is america. Almost everything you buy has been bought and sold at least three times at a 100-300% markup, and more.

The car is not as bad as it looks, really. The underside and subframe are in great shape. The motor, tranny and rear are numbers matching. It even still has (most of) the original carb! Look at the interior pics? The seats and everything else are still straight.

How many RS Z-28's still have all or most of their original components? Of those, how many are Daytona Yellow?

Granted, it needs some serious louvin', but lets look at the ballpark math:

3,000.00 in replacement metal
10,000.00 in services to replace said metal.
2,500.00 to rebuild the motor, tranny
1,000.00 interior kit (Or give the existing interior a good cleaning?)

Let's say a round up 18,000.00 for incidentals, plus a 25,000.00 purchase, is $43,000.00.
I bet that car would bring $60,000.00 at barett if it was done right.

My biggest concern is that we really do not see those kind of rust issues down here. Certainly, not like that. I suspect that the car being so near the papermill may have had some sort of an effect (I am not a chemist, nor do I know anything about paper mills, I am mearly making an observation) on the car. The "shell" is toast. In fact, when you shut the passengers door, the entire rear pass quarter moves.

It is what it is as they say (Or "Git-R-Done" in Mississippi). It is an UNMOLESTED (see, I did not say "survivor"), no "Day 2" parts 1969 Z-28, with all # match drivetrain, RS, heck, even the original gauges and dash pod (which are in great shape as well).

Rich

I'd repaired some rusted old cars before, but this one takes the cake.
25,000 dream on, asking to much even if you can restore it all yourself, time is money. just my 2 cents

It's now up to $15,001.00, so he's up $501.000 (or $421.00 after the ebay ad)

6 days to go.

Rich

With all of the holes in the body panels, one could claim that it's the first true 1969 Z/28 with "air conditioning". Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Seriously, I bet someone out there buys the darn thing. You can sell just about anything on ebay.

I would say it is just priced a little early... Look what they were bringing 5, 10, 15 years ago...

Hate to say it...but this would be a prime candidate for a "rebody" for someone...Maybe that's what some of the bidders plan to do. Think about all of the high dollar components: A mostly complete matching DZ 302 including carb,all pullies and accessories plus matching Muncie.($8-9K?)Matching 12 bolt posi rear($2000?), RS Wiper/washer($700-$800) motor, "Real" rallies presumably with the correct dates? etc.etc.etc. Has to be an EASY $12K or more just for these parts. Not to mention a real GM console and gauges! $25K is too steep IMO, but at $14-$15K, it might make sense, especially to someone with a solid 69' body waiting in the wings. Could be a whole lotta swappin goin on!
HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD! I thought it was a junker when it was on the site. But this is funny. I guess there is an a$$ for every seat?