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MRCOOL_RSSS350
Aug 25th, 05, 10:28 AM
I received this email a few minutes ago and thought I would share it with the rest of our community to see if we could all join in and make a little difference. It makes perfect sense and if we can get enough people involved, by passing on the word about this to our own friends and family, we might just have a chance!

Six years ago on April 30,1999, a gas out was staged across Canada and the U.S. to bring the price of gas down, and it worked. It's time to do something about it again.

This time, lets make it for three days instead of just one. The oil cartel decided to slow production to drive up gasoline prices. Lets see how many American people we can get to ban together for a three day period in August NOT TO BUY ANY GASOLINE, during those three days.

LETS HAVE A GAS OUT. Do not buy any gasoline from August 29, 2005, THROUGH August 31, 2005. Buy what you need before the dates listed above, or after, but try not to buy any during the GAS OUT. If you want to help, just send this to everyone you know and ask them to do the same. We brought the prices down once before, and we can do it again!
Come on North America lets stand together.

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

tmannet
Aug 25th, 05, 10:46 AM
OK I'll do it...but this audience is small, it would have to get out to the masses to have an effect, I'm not sure how that could be done...

Terry

MRCOOL_RSSS350
Aug 25th, 05, 10:54 AM
Ok This how it works!I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you

send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it
to


at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the

message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have

reached over THREE MILLION consumers!





If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten

Friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it
goes

One level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people and DON"T

Purchase ANY gasoline That's all.



How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email

Out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION
people

Could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you

didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting
together

we can make a difference.

novaderrik
Aug 25th, 05, 11:17 AM
does this work the same as buying a certain $$$ amount of gas, and thus getting out of paying the .9cent tax on gas?

besides, if we boycott gas stations for 3 days, they will just raise the prices to make up for the lost profits.

and i hardly ever buy gas during those 3 days of the week, anyways. i get gas on friday or sunday usually, so i guess i'm already signed up to help change the world.

Chuck L
Aug 25th, 05, 11:20 AM
Count me in. I will take this post and go post it over on www.thedieselstop.com and at www.autocareforum.com which are the other forum I do alot of post at.
Sounds like a hellofa plan.

Chuck L
Aug 25th, 05, 11:45 AM
I also posted it at www.oilburners.net
LETS MAKE THIS WORK......

Chuck L
Aug 25th, 05, 11:54 AM
I also put it at www.contractortalk.com :-) I am on a mission.... I need lower fuel costs....

Tire Smoke 69
Aug 25th, 05, 12:04 PM
Sorry guys, but that will not do anything to effect the price of gas. The net amount of gas sold over any period of time will be exactly the same. How is that going to help anything except make you not be able to by gas when YOU want?

If you want to do something significant about the gas price do the following:

Write your congressman and tell them to vote for legislation to drill for oil off the coast of Fla and Louisiana and in Alaska. While your at it tell them to let us build more refineries in the US. Tell them to stop making the oil companies make over 40 different blends of gas for different parts of the country. Tell them to remove some of the taxes that are built into each gallon of gas, about .40 per.

tmannet
Aug 25th, 05, 12:18 PM
Of course it wouldn't affect the total amount of gas sold this month. But it could make a statement, that's the point. I've been a member of sierra clug for over 20 years, we do the things you mentioned, but this would be good for visibility, can you imagine the 6:00 news reporting a severe drop-off of gas sales for three days? Now THAT's consciousness-raising!


Terry M.

wizard67
Aug 25th, 05, 12:19 PM
Sorry guys, but that will not do anything to effect the price of gas.

The glass is half emty for you isn't it!! lol :)

Chuck L
Aug 25th, 05, 12:23 PM
Tire,
I will agree with your way to some point, But that way will take YEARS... Plus there are to many political hurdles that need to be moved (Green Peace, Tree huggers, politicians with padded pockets and so on.)
If people were to something like boycot fuel purchase for a period of time,(even 3 days) it would make a statement that people are tired of high fuel costs and that if PUSHED we could do more. The problem is getting the word out.
No news paper or TV station is going to endorse this do to loss of revenue they stand to lose, So its up to us, THE PEOPLE... It's kinda like the small bussiness man, we maybe small, but there or more of us then you big boys.
I gotta go now, theres 6 guys in black suits and dark sunglasses knocking at my door and 2 Black Suburns w/ govt. tags on them parked in my driveway...see we can do something !!!!

67 Convertible
Aug 25th, 05, 01:26 PM
You gotta explain this concept to me...or maybe I'm just too slow to pick up on the point. If everybody fills up prior to the three days, then nobody buys gas for 3 days, then everyone fills up on the fourth day, what's the point? In the course of the whole week, we're still going to use the same amount of gas aren't we? The only thing we told the oil companies is that we really do NEED the gas at any price, we're not willing to use less gas, and we will pay any price they want to charge, but we just won't buy it on a certain 3 days?? It's not like the gas is going to go bad (like food) and they will get stuck with it. I'm all for lowering gas prices, but somebody's gotta explain how this will help the pricing??

DjD
Aug 25th, 05, 01:44 PM
Don't believe all that is published on the web or arrives in you inbox...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp

Gary L
Aug 25th, 05, 01:57 PM
I think all of this is mis-directed. The real problem is our dependance on foreign oil. We need a self-sufficiency policy in this country. We need a steady renewable source. Not necessarily petroleum, but let's say alcohol. The problem is the policy makers in this country.

Tokala
Aug 25th, 05, 02:03 PM
You gotta explain this concept to me...or maybe I'm just too slow to pick up on the point. If everybody fills up prior to the three days, then nobody buys gas for 3 days, then everyone fills up on the fourth day, what's the point? In the course of the whole week, we're still going to use the same amount of gas aren't we? The only thing we told the oil companies is that we really do NEED the gas at any price, we're not willing to use less gas, and we will pay any price they want to charge, but we just won't buy it on a certain 3 days?? It's not like the gas is going to go bad (like food) and they will get stuck with it. I'm all for lowering gas prices, but somebody's gotta explain how this will help the pricing??

Ding, ding, ding....we have a winner!:thumbsup:

That is exactly what would happen.

Tire Smoke 69
Aug 25th, 05, 02:13 PM
There is no doubt that it will take years, which is all the more reason to start now. If we began drilling in Alaska tomorrow morning it would take about 7 years for that oil to get into your tank as gasoline.

The first step is to rid ourselves of the folks who want to block the drilling and the building of refineries in this country. They are part of the reason why gas prices are what they are today. What kind of genius creates legislation to stop drilling and building new refineries and makes the oil companies blend 40 different blends of gas for different regions of the US? Well, where are we supposed to get the oil and refine it? Doesn't it make sense to drill it and refine it ourselves? And by the way, one blend for the whole country would reduce the price tomorrow!!! Imagine how much it cost for all that extra overhead to blend so many combinations of gas unnessessarily.

Just be glad you live in the good ole' USA, because if you lived in the UK you would be paying about $8.00 per gallon. My neighbor who has a house here but still lives in th UK pays the equivilant of about $70.00 to fill a Festia.

ZZ430DropTop67RS
Aug 25th, 05, 02:14 PM
We have no choice but to pay through the nose.

We'll make adjustments in our budget to buy gas one way or the other...what's the alternative?

This reminds me of the oil embargo of the early 70's......people were giving away "muscle cars". Now look at the prices of them.

We'll survive.

ssdanny69
Aug 25th, 05, 02:19 PM
The problem, in my opinion, lies with the oil companies, all of which have reported huge profits the last 2 years. The main culprit being Exxon/Mobil. Here in Dallas, Texas, their stations always charge the highest price for gas. Just because some clown from the Petroleum Institute makes a statement, or should I say guess and the next thing you know, the price of a barrel of oil jumps up. IE: "The next hurricane could have an impact on the drilling rigs in the gulf coast, blah, blah, blah.." WHAM! A barrel of oil jumps $1.61 that day! All this is based solely on SPECULATION! Somebody's making money at the expense of the general public. True, we do need to look at other sources of energy but OPEC in general has not limited oil supply. Oil is still coming out of the ground. Some say the prices are up because of demand which is true to a certain degree but let's face it, not at the rate to support these outrageous prices. Sorry, I don't mean to slam Exxon/Mobil but I use to work for them http://www.camaros.net/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif Tell me why prices can very by .10 cents per gallon between two different gas stations, directly across the street from one another?

Mr. C
Aug 25th, 05, 02:24 PM
Everything revolves around gas. As the gas prices go higher everything will follow except for wages. That in turn means less disposable income. Whats the first thing to go when money gets tight? Our hobbies!! I'm not rying to sound like chicken little screaming that the skies falling but I saw this happen in the mid 70s and early 80s.

MrDanB
Aug 25th, 05, 02:27 PM
I remember hearing on NPR (National Public Radio) that the folks deciding how much oil to produce are weeks ahead in scheduling. In other words, there's a bunch of speculation on their part as to what the market will be like and they price accordingly to make sure that they hit their goals. In my eyes, it's got to be rigged from the beginning, and everyone has their hand out along the way from drilling right up till we all pump the stuff. Everytime a major holiday takes place, the rates go up. It's not coincidence friends! Also, try not to be too rough with the station attendants. I know a few owners and they both say they are making very little money on the gas they sell. It's mostly drinks, snacks, smokes, and novelty crap. On the local news, they showed 2 different stations who had to quit selling gas. They said that the fees on accepting credit cards was starting to get ridiculous and eat most of any profit they were making on gas.
I saw another report that says several major metropolitan areas are already overbudget due to the soaring gas prices. Chicago and Atlanta in particular were hurting pretty bad. The head of their school districts said that they didn't know where they were gonna get the $$ to keep even the school buses going, let alone any city rigs... I know I don't drive my Ram truck as much as I used to. Everyone complaining about the Chevy Aveo and Cobalt are gonna be checkin them out here pretty soon :D

Dano

ssdanny69
Aug 25th, 05, 02:35 PM
Better put a locking gas cap on your cars. It's only a matter of time before people start stealing gas. There has already been several drive-offs in the Dallas area where people fill up and take off.

rojo
Aug 25th, 05, 02:44 PM
I called my insurance agent yesterday to increase the coverage on my P-UP after I filled the tank. :)

Tire Smoke 69
Aug 25th, 05, 02:45 PM
I can't disagree with anything you guys have said.

There is also another wildcard in all of this. It's China. Their economy is really exploding right now and not only are they consuming more gas, they are also buying up concrete, drywall and other building supplies. We have had shortages of these materials in our area on and off for the last 4 or 5 years.

klingrr
Aug 25th, 05, 02:53 PM
They are also buying up oil companies too.

Tire Smoke 69
Aug 25th, 05, 03:14 PM
They are also buying up oil companies too.


Thankfully, I think that deal fell through.

sherr20
Aug 25th, 05, 05:37 PM
We need to build Nuclear powerplants now, I saw a report saying 54% of the crude oil used in the US is just to make electricity. If the tree huggers would stop their lobbying against the cleanest and safest power there is, we would free up millions upon millions of barrels of oil every year. Why do they do rolling blackouts in the Komunist state of Kalifornia? Because the greenies have gotten all the Nuclear powerplants shutdown netting a deficit of electrical power. Just my opinion.....oh and we need more ethanol...NOW, and more BIOdiesel....NOW.

1FASTZ
Aug 25th, 05, 06:03 PM
shhh, be vury vury quiet....WHAT EVER YOU DO, don't let the oil cartels get wind of this email that we're sending out. If they learn about our secret boycott, it won't work, so becareful who you send it to.


HEHEHEHEHEHEHE

rich pern
Aug 25th, 05, 06:06 PM
Hey :)
Don't forget about the guy in Mississippi with the perpetual motion machine that the US Patent office will not give a patent to............. ;)

Rich

mrrepodude
Aug 25th, 05, 06:25 PM
contact your local t.v and radio stations... try the newspaper as well... heck for that matter try Rush.. I'm in !!!!!!!! :beers:

LeadMan
Aug 25th, 05, 07:06 PM
Not to get too serious, but all of this stuff about the oil companies and cartels (OPEC) giving us a screwjob is probably not what is happening (OK - maybe a little). The rapid industrialization of India and China is not helping either, though. There are good reasons for no new oil refineries being built in the U.S. since 1976 and the large amount of consolidation that has already taken place in the petroleum business. If you want to find out more, look up an author by the name of Deffeyes (Princeton professor and a petroleum engineer that used to work for the biggies). His work is based on that of a petroleum geologist named Hubbert. If you don't like high gas prices you might have to get used to it. Our ENTIRE economy is based on using large quantities of oil (because we've designed it that way). Things may hurt a whole lot more in a few years than they do now. Now enough about this - time to go gas up the Camaro.

Joe Harrison
Aug 25th, 05, 07:19 PM
Oil is bought in futures or speculation of what is going to happen to hamper supplies to the public. The futers buyers are the ones that drive prices up by letting chicken little dictate there are going to be losses or what ever other crap he can cry and they will listen too. All just a big money making scam. How in the world could I see a truck filling tanks on one day and 3 to 5 days later the gas is .15 per gallon more and he has not been back to the fill the tanks again. Because stations price on the futures method also, but twhen the price goes down how fast do you prices at the pump drop.........very slowly.

We are being taken for a ride by oil...................but it's the good Ol USA and I choose to live here and drive my SUV that get 15 MPG 17 maybe 18 on a road trip. No body to blame but myself for how much I spend on gas..............no corn popper for me. Now alteratives and refineries and drilling in our country ( cost and Alaska) I support. It will take some time but those are the things we need to do. Refineries can be built but the tree huggers have made it so expensive and illegal in some areas it just can't be done. That and it would mean alot of jobs. Funny thing is, why can the rest of the country stop what Alaskans want to do in their own back yard. That like telling us we have to own Butt Stains and not Camaros because they are more popular, which we all know is not true.....LOL

angelglo
Aug 25th, 05, 08:14 PM
i remember the oil embargo. i was just a kid and i wish i had the money and a little older to buy one of these hemis they were getting rid of. anyway, i agree with 67 convertable. you only end up buying gas before or after. if you buy it after the gas out, then you are already paying .10 cents more so who wins?

one for sure way to get gas prices down is to take over a oil rich country! oh, we already did that. twice even. so, is the rumor true about the pipe line straight to the us from iraq?

angel

sherr20
Aug 25th, 05, 08:36 PM
It is all a scam by oil companies, and the politicians know it. Read this report done in 2001.

http://wyden.senate.gov/leg_issues/reports/wyden_oil_report.pdf

MRCOOL_RSSS350
Aug 25th, 05, 08:48 PM
Sorry guys, but that will not do anything to effect the price of gas. The net amount of gas sold over any period of time will be exactly the same. How is that going to help anything except make you not be able to by gas when YOU want?

If you want to do something significant about the gas price do the following:

Write your congressman and tell them to vote for legislation to drill for oil off the coast of Fla and Louisiana and in Alaska. While your at it tell them to let us build more refineries in the US. Tell them to stop making the oil companies make over 40 different blends of gas for different parts of the country. Tell them to remove some of the taxes that are built into each gallon of gas, about .40 per.
Fighting gas prices with your gonvernment is a waste of time. These bastards that are in the office all had their election campaigns paid by the top guns in the oil industry and most of them have shares in refineries. They all have their holidays somewhere in the middle east
for free, compliments of King and Queen of Shell BP and Exxon. There is a lot more of us than the jerks in office. If we all get together whether boycot a name brand like Shell or others forever or do this three day boycot. We have to do something to show these jerks that we are the ones that are getting them rich. The gas here in Ontario is $4.80 a gallon and to think of it, we have our own refineries and we have Petro Canada, that is owned by the Canadians and it seems that it is the first one that goes up in price. I'm in for this boycot. I have sent e-mails to everyone I know.
Nick

Jonesy
Aug 25th, 05, 10:14 PM
Good luck with your boycott........

travis
Aug 25th, 05, 10:43 PM
The population as a whole is not doing their part to use less gas and decrease our dependency on petroleum. Oil companys are banking on the american way of life, becuase they know we will not change. People are not going to change their driving habits or the types of vehicles they purchase until the strain on the pocketbook gets to be too much. How many Excursions, Suburbans, 3/4 ton 4x4's, Hummers, etc do you see on the road to and from work every day with just 1 person in them? How many cars are out there that haven't even had a decent tuneup in years (I've been working on several of these over the last few weeks).

ChevyThunder
Aug 25th, 05, 10:53 PM
Sorry guys, but that will not do anything to effect the price of gas. The net amount of gas sold over any period of time will be exactly the same. How is that going to help anything except make you not be able to by gas when YOU want?

If you want to do something significant about the gas price do the following:

Write your congressman and tell them to vote for legislation to drill for oil off the coast of Fla and Louisiana and in Alaska. While your at it tell them to let us build more refineries in the US. Tell them to stop making the oil companies make over 40 different blends of gas for different parts of the country. Tell them to remove some of the taxes that are built into each gallon of gas, about .40 per.

Dan is 100% correct...they haven't built anew refinery in California for almost 30 years...

LeadMan
Aug 27th, 05, 11:25 AM
The reason why the oil companies have not built a new oil refinery in the U.S. is because they know the hand writing is on the wall for oil. Believe me, if a big (oil) corporation thought they could make money by building more refineries, they would have done it. If they spend $2-3 billion building a new refinery and they don't recover their investment, it is really going to pi** off the shareholders. Calculations done by people who are supposed to know indicate that this year, all of the oil that is recoverable in the world will be half gone. We are now on a slippery slope to no more oil. Guess what - it is going to get expensive. Especially now because world consumption is at an all time high (including the good ol U.S. of A.). The oil that is left is much harder to extract (and expensive). All of the easy oil is already gone. It reaches a point where, even if the oil is there, it takes more energy to recover it than it has inherently. Thermodynamics 101. Get used to high prices. Might have to convert the Camaro to alcohol.