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This guy at work is trying to tell me that the Ford Lighning will beat the Corvette in Quarter Mile as well as has a better handling suspension.

I think he has been breathing some solvents a little to long.

Anyone know the stats or a link that proves him wrong?

Thanks.

Yeah sure - just smile, nod knowingly and walk slowly away...

Let's see;
*the 'furd frightening' does the 1/4 in @14.2 (@98) - the 'vette does it in the mid 12's (@115)
*the 'frightening' does 0-60 in @5.8 - 'vette is there a couple seconds earlier @3.9
* and let's just say the top speeds are really not comparable - in the 'vette's favor of course.
* the 'frightening' will haul more B.S. than the 'vette... :D

"as well as has a better handling suspension" - well then, we'll be expecting to see them in the SCCA winners circle more often! :rolleyes:

Have him refer to Car&Driver, Road&Track or even Edmunds.com for reviews and comparisions - if he cares to. graemlins/sad.gif

Originally posted by Vintage 68:
* the 'frightening' will haul more B.S. than the 'vette... :D

now, that was funny :D

Originally posted by Vintage 68:
Yeah sure - just smile, nod knowingly and walk slowly away...

Let's see;
*the 'furd frightening' does the 1/4 in @14.2 (@98) - the 'vette does it in the mid 12's (@115)
*the 'frightening' does 0-60 in @5.8 - 'vette is there a couple seconds earlier @3.9
* and let's just say the top speeds are really not comparable - in the 'vette's favor of course.
* the 'frightening' will haul more B.S. than the 'vette... :D

"as well as has a better handling suspension" - well then, we'll be expecting to see them in the SCCA winners circle more often! :rolleyes:

Have him refer to Car&Driver, Road&Track or even Edmunds.com for reviews and comparisions - if he cares to. graemlins/sad.gif A regular Vette will run low to mid 13's, not 12's. The Z06 will run 12's with a good driver. Even a Z06 won't run a 3.9 second 0-60, at least my friends 02 won't. And a regular Vette may very well lose to a Lightning 0-60. A stock Lightning will run mid to high 13's, so the drag race may be closer than you think, especially at the lower speeds. The Vette wins on the top end. And although the Lightning handles very well for a truck, it is no match for a Vette.

Jody

I would have to say it depends on the driver of the corvette (non-ZO6 of course) and how well they are off the line and at shifting. More than likely, I would call it even in the 1/4 mile. My stock Lightning will run mid-13's all day and low 13's on a cool night. My truck will never come close to out handling a corvette in the corners but is still a blast to autocross!!

Chris

Track123, maybe you should go over to Ford and work for them because somehow you are getting >.5 second better quarter mile results then the professional drivers who review and test these cars! There is no way your Lightning gets low 13s when a brand new 2004 Lightning does 14.2 quarter mile unless you removed about 800 lbs of weight from somewhere...

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/102037/page004.html
14.2 Second Quarter Mile out of a 2004 Ford F150 SVT Lightning

Originally posted by Brian Lewis:
Track123, maybe you should go over to Ford and work for them because somehow you are getting >.5 second better quarter mile results then the professional drivers who review and test these cars! There is no way your Lightning gets low 13s when a brand new 2004 Lightning does 14.2 quarter mile unless you removed about 800 lbs of weight from somewhere...

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/102037/page004.html
14.2 Second Quarter Mile out of a 2004 Ford F150 SVT Lightning Brian,

A stock Lightning will almost always run between 13.5 to 13.8 in the 1/4. There are a few tests of low 14's but those are not near the norm. Mine ran 13.61 completely stock on a track that is known for it's poor prep.

My friends stock 02 Vette (auto trans) has run a best of 13.6 on the same track.

These same magazine guys can only run high 13's low 14's with the SRT-10 truck too, but there's several running mid 13's with a decent driver. Much harder to launch than a Lightning though.

Jody

Originally posted by Camcojb:
A regular Vette will run low to mid 13's, not 12's. The Z06 will run 12's with a good driver. Even a Z06 won't run a 3.9 second 0-60, at least my friends 02 won't. And a regular Vette may very well lose to a Lightning 0-60.

Jody No argument about the Lightning being a very close equal to a "stock" 'vette in some ways - but then that's not a real "Apples to Apples" comparision is it then?
Fords top-o-thee-line 'performance truck' should be compared to Chebbies top-o-thee-line 'vette - ain't that fair???
I purposly used a 2004 Z06 because they are the 'same-year' 'same purpose' vehicles - designed, the both of them, as a peak perfomance vehicle to performance oriented vehicle purchasers.
And, of course, because that was the title of the post... it's not asking me to compare a 2001 or 02 etc...
Comparing a highly modified performance vehicle to a stock vehicle would hardly be a serious test.
If there was a flaw in this logic please let me know.
Of course we could always load the Ol' Lightning down to it's GVW and rerun the tests :rolleyes:

The real question here is - is the Lightning faster than those Mustang GT's we keep hearing about... :D

JMHE - John

Originally posted by Vintage 68:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Camcojb:
A regular Vette will run low to mid 13's, not 12's. The Z06 will run 12's with a good driver. Even a Z06 won't run a 3.9 second 0-60, at least my friends 02 won't. And a regular Vette may very well lose to a Lightning 0-60.

Jody No argument about the Lightning being a very close equal to a "stock" 'vette in some ways - but then that's not a real "Apples to Apples" comparision is it then?
Fords top-o-thee-line 'performance truck' should be compared to Chebbies top-o-thee-line 'vette - ain't that fair???
I purposly used a 2004 Z06 because they are the 'same-year' 'same purpose' vehicles - designed, the both of them, as a peak perfomance vehicle to performance oriented vehicle purchasers.
And, of course, because that was the title of the post... it's not asking me to compare a 2001 or 02 etc...
Comparing a highly modified performance vehicle to a stock vehicle would hardly be a serious test.
If there was a flaw in this logic please let me know.
Of course we could always load the Ol' Lightning down to it's GVW and rerun the tests :rolleyes:

The real question here is - is the Lightning faster than those Mustang GT's we keep hearing about... :D

JMHE - John </font>[/QUOTE]John,

He's asking for a comparison of a 04 Vette and an 04 Lightning. Never said a Z06, which is almost always how the Z06 is known as. Nobody calls them a Vette, they call them a Z06. The performance of my friends 02 is identical to the 04, no performance changes at all made to the later car.

It does say a lot about the Lightning if you think to be a fair test it must be against the bad boy Vette, the Z06. I mean we are talking about a 4800 pound TRUCK versus a 3300 pound CAR (regular Vette, the Z06 is even lighter)! Yes, the Lightning is the top of the line in Fords performance truck line and the Z06 is the top of the Vettes. I just thought a 345 HP car with a 1400 pound weight advantage should be able to stand on it's own against a 380 HP truck.

No offense intended, just getting my side out! graemlins/beers.gif I just read the title to mean a stock Vette, that's all. And I really enjoy my Lightning, wish Chevy would get in the game.

Jody

[ 06-26-2004, 07:28 AM: Message edited by: Camcojb ]

Originally posted by Camcojb:
No offense intended, just getting my side out! graemlins/beers.gif I just read the title to mean a stock Vette, that's all. And I really enjoy my Lightning, wish Chevy would get in the game.

Jody And absolutley none taken graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Like I said - I know the Lightening to be a well developed package that puts the truck on about an equal footing with some of the best performance cars out there,even a stock Corvette (sorry for the "'Vette" thingy - I'm sorta 'old-school' and we always called the performance Corvette's "'Vette's", come-on even you have to remember the 3 tailights and all the songs. A good friend still calls his Z06 a 'Vette all the time.).

I've never driven a Lightening but, have ridden in one. The exhaust sound was very pleasing. He never got on it during the trip but it rode nice and seemed to handle the on/offramps just fine :D Maybe I will go hit him up for a "real" ride in it after hearing all these good things about them...

I kinda agree with your statement about 'Chevy - getting in the game'.
They've had some decent performance P.U.'s in the past like the SS454 but, nothing worthwhile in the recent offerings that I can remember - although my little TrailBlzer 6/all-in-a-row kicked some BMW butt the other night - J/K - I don't think he knew we were "racing" for the same merge until the very end - I wasn't havin' any of his I gotta get past you thingy...

Peace out - gotta go read up on these performance Chips for TrailBlazers now :D

John

Originally posted by Vintage 68:

The real question here is - is the Lightning faster than those Mustang GT's we keep hearing about... :D

JMHE - John At our local 1/8 the new Lightings will bust on a stock GT all day and they are right there with a stock Vette.

Edit: I just realized you already knew the answer to the "real question". Peace out, I use that one too. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Thanks for your input!

I see this got worked out before I got back. If you check out any of the Lightning boards, you'll find that stock Lightnings consistently run mid 13's unless the track is just crap or the driver can't drive worth a crap (I've heard the variations are much greater for the SRT-10 because of the manual transmission). And notice I did say low 13's on a "cool" night (and probably should of added a well prepped track). Superchargers love the cool air!! :D


Chris

Just watched hot Rod TV and the SRT 10 which they said was hard to launch ran 13.44 and the lighting was just under a 1/2 sec slower but was easy to launch.

I guess I'll add my 2 cents. Just got an 02 ZO6. Not sure if I will put it on the strip but I have already topped the century mark in 3rd gear and was not really thrashing the car. The only problem I see at the dragstrip will be traction. I don't really think comparing a truck to a performance car is realistic ZO6 or not.YMMV :D

I've seen stock Lightnings run mid 13's at Englishtown and with minimal mods run in the 12's easily. Whoever tested the Lightning and ran 14's wasn't driving very well or maybe they filled it up with regular gas.