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jj69z28 Sep 21st, 05, 04:34 AM can anyone believe this stuff??? incredible!! seller has private feedback and buyers are kept private too. gee i wanna buy from this guy :clonk:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Camaro-RS-Z28-Cowl-Firewall-section-X33D80-Black_W0QQitemZ4576669206QQcategoryZ39405QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
69inpieces Sep 21st, 05, 09:22 AM Why keep it private with positive feedback??? Unless, maybe it is the transaction or participants that are being kept out of sight.
al8apexer Sep 21st, 05, 09:56 AM clicking ion the "private" portion revealed he had ONE positve feedback, 100% rating
does not indicate whether from a seller of a buyer
he has been on ebay since oct 04
I am suspect of anyone that makes their feedback private and will not accept bids from one that has chosen to hide their feedback
I am also suspect of sellers that keep the bidders ID hidden as tghat only tells me that their buddies are bidding and no "real" bidders exist
I LIKE black cars but would NOT buy anything from this seller only because of his hidden feedback and hidden bidder offering
Here is a list of the items he has offered for sale in the last 30 days:
7994368539 Aug-18-05 Aug-25-05 16:58:27 PDT $28.89 1968 Camaro-Nova-Chevelle Distributor #1111297 ssskat(private) (*)
4569723975 Aug-18-05 Aug-25-05 20:05:35 PDT $22.07 1969 Chevy Big Block 3 groove engine pulley #3937787-AC ssskat(private) (*)
4569962494 Aug-19-05 Aug-25-05 13:41:39 PDT $1.00 1977 Chevy Corvette rear bumper frame With Shocks No Bids (*)
4575612545 Sep-14-05 Sep-18-05 16:56:53 PDT $1.00 1969 Chevy Big Block 3 groove engine pulley #3937787-AC No Bids (*)
The ONLY bidder was the SAME person with a PRIVATE feedback too
I suspect some funny business with this seller, especially since the pulley was "sold" then re-appeared for sale again, even with the SAME title
Here is what he has bid on in the last 30 days:
4576440400 Sep-18-05 Sep-25-05 09:48:21 US $52.00 68 CHEVY IMPALA CUSTOM 1ragoo gminfor
RUN away from this seller
jg95z28 Sep 21st, 05, 11:12 AM Wait... he's selling the firewall section with VIN and the tags off a Z/28-RS.
For what purpose would anyone buy this except to commit fraud? :p
Perhaps he should change his ebay name to "clonesRus"? :D
Jeff H Sep 21st, 05, 11:52 AM Hah, that's a fake tag too. That's why the private auction and private seller stuff. This is really getting amazing what some guys will do to enhance the value of parts and cars.
http://i12.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/fc/42/f2_1_b.JPG
mccorry Sep 21st, 05, 03:07 PM Really? (I am being serious)....
RS3SDL2MG Sep 21st, 05, 03:16 PM you know if I didn't know better I would say that someone will make a clone 1969 Z/28 out of those part's ? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, na they wouldn't ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,would they ?
ChevyThunder Sep 21st, 05, 05:11 PM A fake tag that someone went to the trouble to paint ten times then beat up to make it look old...
Hah, that's a fake tag too. That's why the private auction and private seller stuff. This is really getting amazing what some guys will do to enhance the value of parts and cars.
http://i12.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/fc/42/f2_1_b.JPG
Pacecarjeff Sep 21st, 05, 05:27 PM It's all private because his wife, kids, and friends are bidding.
No real bids.
Stay away from that stuff.
Gregs68U-U Sep 21st, 05, 06:07 PM I guess the buyer is really losing out!!! The VIN will be in the database to be tracked, and not to mention that he is spending a tone of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for a fake tag :thumbsup:
bilodeaulynn Sep 21st, 05, 07:08 PM I guess the buyer is really losing out!!! The VIN will be in the database to be tracked, and not to mention that he is spending a tone of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for a fake tag :thumbsup:
How will the VIN be in the database? It is not listed in the auction.
Hopefully a picture will be kept by whomever is keeping pics of all the questionable tags.
Kurt, do you keep such a db?
I am not so sure it is a fake. My car is 08A 10 10 X77D80. This VIN is about 4,000 higher than mine and the BDY number is 5833 higher than mine, so the correlation is correct for a car built 3 weeks after mine.
I have compared pics side by side, and if it is a fake, it is the best one I have ever seen. My gut feeling is it is a real tag.
Regardless of whether it is real or fake, it is a worthless POS to me once it is separated from the body. Like I said, hopefully it is logged by BDY number and when it shows up on that really expensive "number matching all original" Z/28 we will all know.
Whoever has tracked all his auction shenanigans with shill bidders should make a report to ebay. They won't bust a guy for selling an obvious fake car, tag, restamped engine etc. but they will bust them for using shill bids.
Lynn
zdld17 Sep 21st, 05, 07:37 PM Again, this is a 08D car with N106214 and my car is 12A , N141111 and no X codes. They didn't build bodies that far in advance do they?
RamAirDave Sep 21st, 05, 08:19 PM Definately a fake tag. Looks like one from Trim Tags probably.
Kinda funny someone goes through all that trouble on a fake tag anyway. Guess he'll fool somebody.
dave
Jonesy Sep 21st, 05, 08:48 PM I keep track of the pics and info in my data base. The tag has the right body number as others in the August 69 build period. Yes, the tag is fake. I have about 35 fake tags in my pics so far and about 300 real tags.
Kurt S Sep 21st, 05, 08:53 PM I don't enter the loose tags in the db anymore.
Too much time and there are too many of them. But I save the tag pics.
Another TC member (or two) was logging them, not sure if anyone still is.
bilodeaulynn Sep 22nd, 05, 08:02 PM Again, this is a 08D car with N106214 and my car is 12A , N141111 and no X codes. They didn't build bodies that far in advance do they?
That is because your car is 12A, first week of December in 1968. This car is 08D, or fourth week of August 1969. They reset the BDY number in the first week of August 1969. My BDY number is 100381. I believe the BDY number was reset to 100001, meaning mine would be the 381st body built after the reset. Kurt has confirmed that they have lower numbers than mine on file after the reset.
Again, not like it matters, but I am still not convinced it is a fake tag. Anyone want to PM me on why it is fake? I can email you a pic of mine, and it is pretty close, although mine hasn't been beat up like this one.
Lynn
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