The car was built 10D per the trim tag. The 12 bolt I pulled out of it is dated 10 18. It has factory dual exhaust mounting points in front of the rearend area and a adjustment valve in the brake line under the drivers side of the car. The gear code is BM 3.31. The Z28 emblem in the back does not look like it was drill out and I don't know if the rs emblem use the same holes. The rear spoiler on the car is a 68 but the deck led is a factory spoiler lid. Someone told my that early 69's had 68 spoilers on them. Two fuel lines.
I am just curious about all these things. I found part of the build sheet but it was to far gone. The drivers front finder I think is an original too the car and again the z28 emblem holes looks factory. I don't know much about 69's but after reading some of the post's about Z's and SS cars. I just had to ask questions. The car is a V8 manual trans car.
Pat

A couple of other easy to spot things are factory front disks, large rear bumper guards, if its an early Z it should have a 7k-6k redline. Your spoiler is correct for early build 69's. Let us know.

Brad

Supposedly the Z28 only had one fuel line. See if you can find some obscure PN that would ID the car, like the idler arm, if its still OEM. Z28's had a specific size that was only used on that model. CRG (Camaro Research Group) is an awesome technical data website.

Z28s had one fuel line. Quadrajet cars had 2. Peple make these so called CLONE z28's because the emblems bolt on and SS emblems are hard to line up. Short spioler is correct. Could be an SS/ LM1 or maybe a nice optioned standard? There are allot of details that would neet to be known to decide what it really is.

Gr33N:

What's the firewall tag read? :cool:

First...not sure if this is an early or late car, so having said this....Regarding the rear date, - Checked a 1969 calendar...wasn't 10-18-69 a Sunday?(Maybe 10-18-68?)Is this possible? Some say yes, some say no. Also should have single fuel line as mentioned, quick ratio steering (check pitman arm length- should be the longer one for the N44). Also, speedo cable should exit the firewall just above the throttle linkage. Look at the bulkhead behind the rear seat. Maybe an "X" marking of some sort? Also, is it a D80 car? It should be if its October 69. The subframe should have a neatly punched hole at the front for the spoiler mount. If this is an early car, it would not need to have the D80 option. Really need the rest of the cowl tag info and VIN.

Heres a photo of the cowl tag.http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/Pgreen/MVC-590S.JPG
The person brought the car from pick the car up with most of the front end stuff missing. It sounds like the was started to be parted out at one time.
Pat

Sounds like an Oct 68 car and the dual fuel lines tells you it's either an SS350 or an LM1 car. If the Z28 emblems look like they bolt right in then they might be taking the place of the SS350 emblems. Since the car has obviously been altered at some point in its life, it will be hard to really prove anything. Is there anything on the buildsheet at all you can read? There are lots of clues as to which engine, trans, rear, etc. on that.

All I found of the build sheet is a roted 1 inch x 6 inch paper on top of the gas tank, it was to far gone to get athing off it. So what is a LM1 car? I am just curious as if it was common for 69's to have this stuff on a plan jane RS car.
Pat

The LM1 is a 350, 255hp engine with Quadrajet 4 barrel carb. It has 2 fuel lines. My 10d build LM1 Los Angeles built car has 132383 sequence number which seems a little far off from your 151292 for being built in the same week but I guess its possible.
Post the VIN Number from the dash pad to see how it fits in line with the body build number.
The LM1 was the easiest car to clone into an SS if it had the right options. The LM1 was only built in the early production months up to Dec. then dropped from production. You can search our Bench section or Tag section for "LM1" and read about it.

SS and RS emblems in front and back are easily interchanged, the back ones using the same holes. Front mount has no holes but a bend in the emblem to conform to the grille.

Here's the vin # 124379L505990.
Pat

WOW mine is 505849 , they are only 141 apart on the assembly line, probably same day or at most a day apart. Does it have a welded plate with holes drilled in it on the drivers side frame rail at about 1 o'clock position behind drivers side rear wheel, that an exhaust hanger would bolt too? If so, its original dual exhaust which could be ordered with the LM1. Have you gotten the numbers off the engine pad behind the alternator? If its the original engine that will tell if its an LM1 or and SS as the VIN will be next to that number or most probably the partial VIN will be on the pad above the oil filter.

It does not have the original motor in it. I will have to look for the welded pad.
Pat

The exhaust hanger is there.
Pat
Ok, the car does have a 12 bolt, dual fuel line, porp valve and came with dual exhaust. It has all the options to be a LM1. So how rare would a RS LM1 be?
Pat

The RS part is more rare than standard coupe of course, but the LM1 engine option is probably more rare than the RS alone. There has been alot of chat about the LM1 over the years so easiest way to learn up is use the 'search' feature and type in 'LM1' and start to read all the threads that discuss it.
There is also some information at www.camaros.org about the LM1 as well. There isnt any data base of how many were built so there really is no way to document exactly how rare it is.
Since the LM1 was only in production for maybe 4 or 5 months, it is more rare than other engines used but again no records to document a ratio that can be used to compare.
Alot of the LM1's that Ive seen from LA also have the 3932388 block but since your engine is gone, that wont be known either which block it had. Any records of previous owners that you can back track and contact to try to find the engine?

Couldn't the car be an RS/SS 350

Car could be a LM1 or a SS350. No way to tell without docs or the original engine.

10,406 people ordered the LM1 option in 1969 Camaros, a little over 12% of the production for the first four months of the model year, but only 4.2 % of overall 69 production.

I did a search on the LM1 and found it interesting. Thank's for the info.
Pat