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joemac8
Sep 28th, 05, 08:26 PM
I am new to this forum and to Camaros.

A fellow offered me a car that my wife fell in love with but I have no idea if the price is right. It is a 67 red Camaro conv, 6 cyl, auto P/S, P/B power top. It looks exactly like the day it left the dealer outside, inside and under the hood. It is all matching original except for the radio. This is NOT a R/S or a SS, it is a standard Camaro but is immaculate.

Does anyone have an idea of value

Thanks, Joe

bertfam
Sep 28th, 05, 08:49 PM
Joe,

Depends on just how much you love your wife!!

Sounds like a nice car. A few nice options for a base 6 cylinder convertible.

NADA (http://www.nadaguides.com/autohome2.aspx?Lnk=1&wSec=10&wPr=0&wPg=2111) lists the going price for a 67 Convertible with a 6 to be anywhere from 10k to 30k. Quite a spread!!

Check ebay to see what they're going for. Here's one now (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-chevrolet-camaro-rs-convertible-1-of-5000-L-K_W0QQitemZ4578793371QQcategoryZ6161QQssPageNameZW DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem), although it's an RS.

Also search the "Completed" listing.

This one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-1967-6-cyl-Camaro-Convertible-Not-68-69_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6161QQitemZ457679011 0QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW) went for a little less than 15k, but took it a few times to sell.

I have a 68 RS/SS 396/375 L89 Convertible, but would LOVE to own a 68 6 cylinder RS Convertible!

What is the price he's asking?

Ed

joemac8
Sep 28th, 05, 10:27 PM
Ed, as I said it looks like it just drove off the dealer's lot. The seller wants $24,000. It has 36,000 original miles.

bertfam
Sep 29th, 05, 12:19 PM
24k. I'd say that's probably a little too much for what you're getting. If it was an RS and a V8, it might be worth that, but for a base car, it just seems a little too high. Even for a car that only has 36k miles.

Of course, it all depends on how bad you want the car too. Some purchases are made with the heart and not the head. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as you remember that down the road when the engine siezes, or the brakes fail, or the transmission drops out!! This is STILL a 40 year old car and it WILL HAVE PROBLEMS. Maybe not right away, but eventually.

I would point out the ebay auctions to the owner and compare his pricing to what those other cars are going for. Then make him an offer in those same amounts. All he can do is say no. If he says yes, your journey begins. If he says no, decide if you're willing to go higher. After all, no one can decide your "final price" for you. It's a decision you and your wife alone have to make.

Good luck and let us know how things progress.

Ed

Bob Brissie
Sep 29th, 05, 06:28 PM
I'm always hesistant to jump on a 6 banger (unless its been replaced with an 8 that is) Its just tough to pay a bunch for a 6 cylinder car, not matter how nice or low the miles are. IMO, anything more than $16-18K for a base 6 convert could become pretty risky at resale time. It would take a special buyer to bid it up that high. ($24K)The market on these car is just not nearly as strong as the V8 cars. As was mentioned, if the car was an RS, that would help a bit.

ironcross
Sep 29th, 05, 07:11 PM
I saw this posted on the Corvette Forum but I believe without a price. Actually, it`s how I found this site. I too agree that 24K is way too much for a base 6 cyl convertible. It`s probably a very nice car from it`s discription but definately not enough special options and the wrong engine to warrant that kind of money.

Kyvox
Sep 29th, 05, 08:15 PM
Nothing wrong with a 6 cyl. IMO. As a matter of fact, I would consider putting a 6 in my 68 convertible, if the need ever arises.
It all depends on what you intend to use the car for. Just crusing around town, or car shows and such, a 6 might be perfectly adequate. Especially with the price of gas getting higher. If you're more performance oriented, the 6 may not get it done for you.

24K might not be out of line if the car has never been wrecked, still has it's original paint in pretty good shape, and the milage is verifiable.

I would have someone knowlegable in first gen. Camaros look it over and give you an appraisal.

1stGenJake69
Sep 29th, 05, 08:30 PM
Did anyone else noticew the trim tag on the "v6" vert. I thought 12467 meant v8? What am I missing here, isn't the "4" a v8

bertfam
Sep 29th, 05, 09:03 PM
Jake,

You're correct however, it's not the Trim Tag that's the indicator, but the VIN. The Trim Tag will always have a "4" in the third digit.

And I totally agree with John. Not a thing wrong with a 6. They're extremely fun to drive (my dad bought my mom a used 69 Coupe with a 6 in 1971), and they get good gas mileage. Sure, it's not a barn burner, but you'd be surprised at the performance of a 6 cylinder! I had that speedo way past the "maximum allowed by law" limit on more than one occasion!! Lost the keys for a month when I buzzed past my dad while he was sitting at the intersection waiting for his light to turn green!! Didn't even see him. Good times...

And yes, if I could find a nice, inexpnsive 68 Convertible like the blue 67 on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-chevrolet-camaro-rs-convertible-1-of-5000-L-K_W0QQitemZ4578793371QQcategoryZ6161QQssPageNameZW DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem), I'd snap it up in a second.

Ed

jg95z28
Sep 30th, 05, 01:43 PM
I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Although V8s are the hot ticket. We're talking about a 36K mi showroom fresh convertible correct? If its truly numbers matching and all the documentation is correct, a year from now you won't be able to touch that car for $24K.

If it is what he says it is, and it has the documentation to confirm it, AND your wife loves it, I'd have to say $24K is a fair price.

Jonesy
Sep 30th, 05, 01:52 PM
I agree with Jeff G. above. BUY IT! what are you waiting for!:D

joemac8
Oct 1st, 05, 10:02 PM
The seller is at $23K. The wife is at 14 cents. I am going to try to get him to $21,500 and see if we can make a deal.

I looked at the trim tag today and it read:

Top line 05A

67-12467NOR114603

TR 760-Z

D3SK

Paint R2

I have no experience with Camaros so any help with the trim tag would be appreciated.

Joe

dragsterman
Oct 2nd, 05, 04:54 AM
Pass! Take the wifes .14 cents and run! Way too much for a 6 banger car, nice or not. You can find a nice car in that price range.

dragsterman
Oct 2nd, 05, 04:56 AM
They are all 36k original mile cars these days! How can you prove original miles? Throw away all the docs after 36k?

Jonesy
Oct 2nd, 05, 07:29 AM
If it is truly as he said in the first post, it is worth all of $23K! Docs or no docs, if it is that original what do you need the docs to support, especially if it isnt an RS or SS. I would love to own that car! BUY IT!

joemac8
Oct 2nd, 05, 11:26 AM
The Seller is down to $22K and he says that this is the floor. Come on guys, I need a little more help here. How about some more comments. I'm also not independently wealthy so this will take some financing magic as well. I am not a Camaro guy and this is all new to me! :clonk:

bertfam
Oct 2nd, 05, 12:42 PM
Joe,

The problem is you're asking for opinions. Some people say no, others say yes. WE can't make up your mind for you. This is something you, and you alone must decide. If you WANT the car, buy it, no matter the cost. If you feel it's too much, don't.

However, one last bit if advise... Compare the purchase price of THIS car, to the purchase price of a late model "used" car, like a 2001 Camaro. What do you get? Price is probably about the same, but the first generation will most likely appreciate more over time. It's all speculation though. The bottom of the muscle car industry could drop out tomorrow! You just never know!

I DO suggest that you have someone VERY knowledgabe on first gen's look over the car for you. Just because it looks nice, and the owner "says" it's only got 36k miles on it, there might still be underlying problems with the car. At least take it to a reputable mechanic for a compression check and a leak-down test. These will tell you the status of the engine. He should also check the brakes, cooling system and other major components. This is a MUST no matter what car you buy. I don't care if the seller is your mother. NEVER take anyones word on the mechanics of a car.

Let us know how things go...
Ed

joemac8
Oct 2nd, 05, 12:48 PM
Ed, great advise that I will take. I will let you know what happens. :thumbsup:

Thanks again, Joe