Well I guess the whole Foose Camaro thing is well on It's way...Theres gonna be 500 less 69's out there (or already) for us Camaro guys to restore....Here is a good link on the whole Foose / Unique Camaro project.


http://img.exigo.com/public/15/websites/38/images/MCE.pdf

Another toy for the rich, while the rest of us work hard on our cars every free moment we get. But I'm sure Foose and Unique will do it wright.

Parden me for asking, but what was he thinking with those colors? Not only are they buying these car up, but as ugly as that car is (I hate to a '69 Ugly),that is just a sin.

I agrees Jon, I don't care for the color combo either.

Starting price $109,000! I think i might get one, but I'll have to mortage it.

Hideous color scheme. 109K is a lot to pay for a car that you're gonna have to repaint.

Car needs a rear spoiler of some sort IMO. The 69's look unfinished without one. Color is not bad, but the combo is. Orange and gray don't jive well IMO either, especially the gray rocker treatment.

thats gonna be 500 less original numbers matching Z/28's to put on zbay !

I dont they sell over 35 of them

Oh come on guys, it's not like he's destroying the car. He basically is restoring 500 original Camaro's. As for the color choice: He is using 1969 Hugger Orange, and the grey instead of black. The color is fine. I'm sure you could get any color you want. Is jealousy rearing it's ugly head or what ?

Is jealousy rearing it's ugly head or what ?

Difference in taste/style does not equate to jealousy. I don't like the style they've designed the car into and that's all there is to it. I wouldn't own one no matter the cost. And I can afford 109k.

Looks ok, wonder if he uses Goodmark sheet metals? If so then I think Goodmark is sending all the blems to the little guys.

Let them take the 500 cars and do that to them , it just makes our originals worth just that much more .
Mark .

is everyone on here a tech or senior tech ?

I can bare the hood kind of but the trunk and shifter look terrible.

Don't like the paint scheme/color combo, needs a spoiler, don't like the grille design. Not impressed with the over priced 572, my blown 540 cost less :D. Not jealous at all.

I like the stance, hood, and wheel/tire combo. :cool:

I had forgotten I snapped a few pictures of this car when it was at the 2005 Good Guys Lone Star Nationals in Grapevine, TX. I had a few more but I must have deleted them for pics of cars that suit my taste better. Here they are anyway if anyone wants to see them before I toss them.

http://home.comcast.net/~clwilcox33/2k5GGLSN/dscn0884.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~clwilcox33/2k5GGLSN/dscn0885.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~clwilcox33/2k5GGLSN/dscn0886.jpg

I don't doubt the quality :thumbsup:

But I just don't care for it :sad:

Notice the missing Cowl Tag? I don't like that idea at ALL.

I don't like any of the work he does on overhaulin. The 18",19" ,20"wheels just look ugly to me on vintage cars. I'll take a set of Crager SS wheels any day. Ed

I think any attempt that is professionally done like this is worthy. We have watched camaros evolve for years, but the thought of 500 new maneaters roaming the streets can be unsetling. Of course we will need them to compete with the future foose mopar & ford versions on their way. I truly believe that they will help maintain or increase prices on the original sacred cars. I am glad I bought my L89 when I did and kept my other three camaros as well. Time will tell.

I like them. Maybe not the fat stripe thing but the rest I like. I would own one and drive one, but would never be able too. Just another car I can never afford to own. I would build my own before buying one though. The whole money no problem thing is when I would buy one..................Not in this lifetime.

Joe

We can disagree about colors and wheels, and maybe some of us don't like Foose's taste. That's fine, whatever. But who are we to say that he can't "ruin" these camaros or any other car? It seems just a little arrogant to suggest that Foose or anyone else cannot or should not rebuild, restore, modify, or even push off a cliff a car that they bought with their own money.

I have $10,000 into my Camaro, and it is still hanging from the rafters of my garage. Who is to say that I haven't spent too much on my car? Who gets to decide? Well, me. Right? Or maybe my wife, but that's another story. If someone wants a $109,000 69 camaro, let 'em buy it, more power to them.

Yes, these cars a limited commodity. Chevy only made so many of them. The reason that we are having this discussion is that we place a value on them. They are collectible. That value manifests between the owner and any potential purchaser. Unless you are willing to step up with your check book to save these cars yourself, please, let people do what they want with their money.

There are already too many people who think they can tell other people what to do with their own property.

Well said Rich...

Anyone notice the tag in place of the cowl tag in the pic above. There should be no issue what these cars are and cowl tags are not law required like the vin plates. I think they took the high ground with respect to the hobby by not having the cowl tag on the car and attaching something of their own showing the cars rebirth haritage...

Just to add to what Dennis posted. A cowl tag tells what the car was, not what it is now. Some people care what the car was, others just simply don't care. The only way I can see a problem, is if Foose was building and selling replica cars. He is not and it is simply a modified '69, just like the pro-street or pro-touring cars!

I guess we can look at it another way....And that is:

Our Kids and grandkids will have another 500 69's to restore back to original when the Foose Camaros are delapitated in about 50 years :thumbsup:

Destroying Camaros. I would say Camaros or any car for that matter that has been cut up stripped down and turned into race car has been destroyed and will no longer be a collectable Camaro. I am just pointing out that as hobbyest we do the same things with these cars as Foose is doing, it's just a different direction. As stated above live and let live.

BTW:
The Novakain project on Overhaulin was dang cool if you ask me. As cousin to the Camaro, I think it turned out awsome. The owner was almost in tears over "his" car when he saw it for the first time. I think that is testiment to what he does on the show and off.

Joe

They are not to suit my taste...because i am into originality. However, I will say this...I have seen far worse looking cars on here than those get praise. Bottom line....they are his cars, and like ours, he can do as he wishes.

Couldn't they use the "new" Camaro shells and save the originals for us normally financed individuals?

Couldn't they use the "new" Camaro shells and save the originals for us normally financed individuals?

Sure if all they built was ragtops. My guess is the Foose cars are all coming from cars most wouldn't think of starting with. All they really need is a vin number, my guess is they replace just about the whole car anyway.

looks decent but I rather have an orignal 69 z28 anyday....

I think I need to sell this to my good buddy Chip! All of the hard stuff is already done! :) He just needs to paint,assemble and drop in a 572 to make about $80-90K or so. WOW!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/belairbobs/puff2.jpg

It's not about what one can do with his own property. It's about some high-faluting "designer" selling his ideas for us sheeple to goble up and say "Hey!!! Thats Awesome!!! Well It is awesome in many respects, but not in the asthetics department. Sorry Chip, it's an UGLY '69 Camaro. Which is a sad, sad, fact.

Car needs a rear spoiler of some sort IMO. The 69's look unfinished without one. Color is not bad, but the combo is. Orange and gray don't jive well IMO either, especially the gray rocker treatment.
I agree...alot missing and not matching well in my opinion ...no jealousy here...nothing to be jealous about...just cause its "Foose" doesn't make it right....Chris

Where are the 500 cars coming from? I noticed a Ebayer bidding on a whole lot of 7-10k cars. Could this be where the cars will come from?

Did you guys see the latest issue of Super Chevy? In the Bowtie Briefs it mentions MOTION getting on the super car bandwagon and plans to create what they call the "Great American Supercar". The rendering pic in the mag looks better than the foose car in some ways but still not a nice as a standard 69 :) Power is to be a Mitchell/Merlin FI aluminum 540.

Yeah, but Motion said "they won't be your average $100,000 Camaro they will be way more expensive than that". Hell sign me up for three of them. The cars still want be as nice as the little 69 tube chassis car we done ;) Oh yeah if anyone wanted a a truly "Unique" Camaro its for sale.

http://site.tennesseeauto.com/pics/3428.JPG

Yeah, but Motion said "they won't be your average $100,000 Camaro they will be way more expensive than that". Hell sign me up for three of them. The cars still want be as nice as the little 69 tube chassis car we done ;) Oh yeah if anyone wanted a a truly "Unique" Camaro its for sale.

http://site.tennesseeauto.com/pics/3428.JPG

Are you the owner of that car?

Jody

http://www.samsclub.com/eclub/main_std_template.jsp?CntId=foose-pack-05551&pid=_10-25-05_camaro&

http://www.samsclub.com/eclub/main_std_template.jsp?CntId=foose-pack-05551&pid=_10-25-05_camaro&

HA HA HA HA!! He is selling them through Samsclub!?!?!



Bill

ok, now that's just wrong! I'm not buying one till they start selling them at 7-11 too.

Oh wait, they are only selling one through Samsclub. But it also includes a DVD of Rides signed by Chip Himself. Man that's gotta be worth sumthin :)

OK one more thing, take a look at this image of the drivers side cockpit
http://graphics.samsclub.com/images/foose-pack3-05.jpg
Is that paint missing from the door jamb? Is the wiring to the dimmer exposed? Look at the install job of that kick panel speaker. Umm I hope thats not a finished car in that image for 200k. At least vacuum the the car befor taking the pic :)

The door jamb is just a reflection on the paint. However, they did leave the dimmer wire exposed. I noticed that on when I saw the car at the Good Guy Lone Star Nationals in Texas last month.

Some folks will grasp at anything to put down others "Is that paint missing from the door jamb?" Ya don't have to like it but this isn't the sand box in 1st grade... Something to remember, Foose designed the car, he didn't build it and I doubt he has any say in the price. Unique Performance does the build and marketing of the cars. Sam's Club is known for buying expensive toys and marking up the price. They did the same with an OCC Chopper a while back.

Some folks will grasp at anything to put down others "Is that paint missing from the door jamb?" Ya don't have to like it but this isn't the sand box in 1st grade... Something to remember, Foose designed the car, he didn't build it and I doubt he has any say in the price. Unique Performance does the build and marketing of the cars. Sam's Club is known for buying expensive toys and marking up the price. They did the same with an OCC Chopper a while back.

What are you talking about???? I really thought the paint was missing from the jamb and that the pic must have been from an early non-finished version of the car. I don't think that was a put down, it was a question. I would LOVE to have Foose work on a car for me, he has more talent at designing cars in his little finger than I do in my whole body.

I would say congrats to all the folks involved with the build and marketing.

It's the American way!

(Having said that, the pricing is WAY out of line)

I would say congrats to all the folks involved with the build and marketing.

It's the American way!

(Having said that, the pricing is WAY out of line)

Ditto!:thumbsup:

I would say congrats to all the folks involved with the build and marketing.

It's the American way!

(Having said that, the pricing is WAY out of line)

The price is not out of line as long as people are willing to pay the price, Of course that does not include me. I could have a whole stable of muscle cars for that price.

I like this idea. What could they possibly want with all the parts and pieces coming off the 500 cars. He will no doubt be using aftermarket parts everywhere on these cars. I just want to sift through this huge pile at my leisure and maybe find a few goodies to take home.

I have not heard anyone saying they love the grill. Is it just me that thinks its frickin ugly? The 69 Camaro, Standard or RS is hard to improve upon, body wise that is.




67 convert
69 Z
69 RSSS396

I like this grille far more... (I'm biased though) Just a molded bumper, and blue driving lights up front. Did not touch the classic RS grille. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/belairbobs/69RSZHood.jpg

Bob, I know you love every chance you get to post pictures of that 69.....and I don't blame ya, I love seeing them. That was a VERY nice car.

Jody, the car belongs to a good customer of mine, Mark Turner. I know he said the other day he's thinking about selling it.


Scott

Who makes that shifter on the Foose 69 Camaro?
Also, the steering wheel?

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/4170/camaro72gb.th.jpg (http://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camaro72gb.jpg)

Who makes that shifter on the Foose 69 Camaro?
Also, the steering wheel?

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/4170/camaro72gb.th.jpg (http://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camaro72gb.jpg)


Ok...my 2 cents:

A) That shifter is horrible-stupid ugly

B) The car certainly needs a spoiler of some kind.Hard to improve on the original design but the Firebird T/A spoiler is a good option if one wants to be different.

C) Can't Chip Foose paint ANYTHING ONE COLOR? Does everything in his world HAVE to be two-toned with some god awful stripe down the side?

D) Don't care for those "specially designed" billet wheels and the front grille just doesn't do it for me either.

If he wants to make 'em and people want to buy 'em,more power to them but it ain't my idea of what a $200K Camaro should look like.

Fricking ugly if you ask me...

I'm off the soapbox for now. :waving:

looks decent but I rather have an orignal 69 z28 anyday....

:thumbsup:

Shifter is part of the Tremac stuff.. Looks like that is a Budnick wheel.

Yes Chris..it WAS :(

Now you can buy it back......

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-1969-CAMARO-Z-28-PRO-STREET-Drag-Car_W0QQitemZ4584444679QQcategoryZ6161QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

I am typically not a fan of blowers sticking out of hoods but this really is a nicely done car.

That molded-in front bumper makes the front end look awesome! :thumbsup:

Jody, the car belongs to a good customer of mine, Mark Turner. I know he said the other day he's thinking about selling it.


Scott


Scott,

I met him on Power Tour at the "monsoon" Alabama stop and again at Tallahassee. Nice guy, just wondered if it was him posting. Had the silver Nova with him too.

Jody

I am a fan of Chip Foose.

But not this car. I'm sure the engineering is sound, but that styling is bad.

Like a moustach on the Mona Lisa.




At least when high priced collectors started buying muscle car they were restoring them. And what about that cowl tag ?

i got a sams club book in the mail and they are selling 1 chip foosh 69 camaro or however you spell his name but they want 198,000$ personaly id rather have a yenco than that 69 but the funny part is they will fly you down to dallas teaxas to get the car but you have to drve back and the 69 probublly only gets like 10mpg so it like 1500$ to here to westmister colorado.

Yes, and I am sure whoever buys a $190,000 car is worried about gas money....

I love Chip Foose's work and someone who has won the Riddler Award as many times as he has, you've got to give him some respect..... but I'm in agreement that I'm not thrilled with the car either. I agree in the fact that it needs a rear spoiler, my own preference.... My greatest criticism on the car, is that I think they were trying to collaborate too much with the car, between Foose Design, Unique Performance and Year One. I think they missed the mark on this car, but I'll be the first to speak up that Chip Foose has made some incredible cars, and if I had a choice between this camaro and the "Eleanor" GT-500, I'd take the GT-500 any day of the week. If you don't like what Unique did with that car, I think I'd have to check your temperature because something's not right with you. (Joking)

All in all.... to each his own. I'm sure they'd tell all of us where we could stick it and who's to say that one of us decided to buy one and then modify it afterwards... they'd probably say we committed a crime also.l

I am from the train of thought that our first gens are gonna get treated however the owner wnts to treat them. I have a friend that traded a '84 blazer straight across for a very highly optioned 69 rs/ss 396 car! My friend has very little money to throw at this car, so he just does one thing at a time. I don't agree with painting it black with purple flames, but it's his car...
The trim tag reads that it was originally a garnet red w/black vinyl top. I would love to see Mike paint it garnet and get a top put on it, but he never will. I guess my point is, there are people in this world who have something outstanding and can barely afford cheap paint to get it looking 1/2 way decent. This is NOT the type of guy who will buying a Foose car. Most of our Camaros that get the "every nut and bolt replaced" type restoration end up costing 50-100k (average) I can appreciate the past work Foose has done on cars and am admittedly a bit "green" that I can't afford 300k worth of tools and a giant shop with heated concrete floors to work on my cars, etc. But the average opinion (concensus here @ TC) of this 200k car is that it's not worth the money, there are certain things about it that look sorta cheesey on it. The grille for example looks like something off a 97 Honda in east LA. IF I had so much coin that 200k was just a "drop in the well", I still wouldn't buy that car. To me it doesn't scream "buy me". Some cars look sooo cool, you just mentally drool over them! We've all done it at car shows. But not this one imho. My car started life as a plain jane 307 column shifter, but after 15k and 5 long years, it's really starting to come around. I can honestly say that I would rather keep my "plain jane" than that blinged out 200k car. Sorry if I offended anyone, it's just my own opinion. (although I know I'm right ;) )

Dano :beers:

I agree the price is high, for my wallet anyhow.
On the other hand, Mark Turners 69 seen here and in Super Chevy. Now thats a sharp car!

On the other hand, Mark Turners 69 seen here and in Super Chevy. Now thats a sharp car!

+1

:-)