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KURT
Nov 5th, 05, 02:04 PM
After several years of working on my 69 camaro I have finally got to the point of puting it back together. I received my regulator mounting kit and it came with three shouldered bolts and three rubber nut inserts. My question is did the 69 regulator use these rubber inserts? If they did how do you mount the reg. to the firewall using them? The hole in the Rad support are to small for the nutserts to go through. It appears that the reg bolts directly to the rad support using sheet metal type screws.There is nothing related to these inserts in the assmebly manual.

Everett#2390
Nov 5th, 05, 02:41 PM
The rubber isolators fit into the radiator support like a grommet fitting into a hole. Use soap to install carefully.

Be sure to have the strap from reg frame to radiator support to ground the reg chassis. Maybe I'm yhinking of a 67-68, otherwise I'd directly bolt it to the rad support with a star washer under the frame-to-support bolt for grounding of reg frame.

KevinW
Nov 5th, 05, 02:47 PM
Kurt, UPC 6 page, sheet B7 shows the regulator mounting and it looks like just a screw is used. Go figure. But, I know I have taken 68 and 69 regulators off with the rubber nutsert. I bought the rubber mounts too in advance and I guess I will open the holes up to get them in. Did you get that engine you were going to look at a couple weekends ago?

Jonesy
Nov 5th, 05, 03:05 PM
The regulator on the 69 uses 2 of the rubber incased nutserts. I dont think you need soap to put them in. It shouldnt be a tight fit at all, they fit into the 2 holes on the support fairly easily and the when you tighten them, they spread and tighten up in those holes. The 3rd mounting hole on the regulator gets a sheetmetal screw for ground. The side that gets the nutserts is closest to the fender and the side that gets the screw is closest to the radiator and also is used to mount the capacitor.

*EDIT: I guess I am wrong see below. The later made NOS support have the larger holes that make it appear that the rubber inserts can be used*

JohnZ
Nov 5th, 05, 06:29 PM
The regulator on the 69 uses the rubber incased nutserts.

Nope, no rubber well-nuts are used - the '69 regulator bolts solid to the radiator support with self-tapping sheet metal screws. If you use well-nuts, the regulator won't work, as it won't be grounded - it's grounded through its attachment. :thumbsup:

KURT
Nov 5th, 05, 07:13 PM
Thanks, There is no way that those nutserts are geting into the hole I have in the radiator support.

Accordinig to Rick's, the fastening set they sell is for all three years; I guess they are mistaken. I will fasten it directly to the rad support.

Kev, I took my block and heads to the guy a couple weeks ago, and he is going to build the engine in return for some body work to his race car.

How are you coming with your car?

There is a swap meet/car show/ old time drags at ATCO tomorrow in case you are interested.

KevinW
Nov 6th, 05, 06:06 AM
Kurt, I guess the weekend engine was no good. My car is coming slow. qtr windows are out, door glass are still in. Took my top off the back to get trim out, but all the screws are rusted in and I am trying to find a way to get them out without destroying the trim. In the meantime, the hard lines on my truck (both front and rear) rusted and burst right in front of my house. Very surprised when the brake pedal went right to the floor! :eek: Luckily it did not happen doing 70 on 195 which I was 10 min before! Since 1995 trucks prebent lines are not avail, I have to bend my own. That project is a little higher priority that the camaro. But I think I will be ready by the end of nov, are you getting close to having it come over?

I was out all sat night, so I missed this. I'm booked up on sunday :(

Jonesy
Nov 6th, 05, 09:42 AM
I didnt think the assembly manual was very descriptive of how it mounted. It doesnt mention the rubber inserts. When I went to mount mine the 2 holes on the one side had holes too big for screws. This is an NOS rad support. The inserts fit in perfectly and the other side had a hole for the sheetmetal screw, so I assumed that was the way they should go in. If Ricks sells these for all three years, what is the difference in radiator supports. I will take pics of mine and I still have my original support for reference. Not that I doubt JohnZ, but my rad support was factory GM from 1984. Pics to follow.

JohnZ
Nov 6th, 05, 06:49 PM
I didnt think the assembly manual was very descriptive of how it mounted. It doesnt mention the rubber inserts. When I went to mount mine the 2 holes on the one side had holes too big for screws. This is an NOS rad support. The inserts fit in perfectly and the other side had a hole for the sheetmetal screw, so I assumed that was the way they should go in. If Ricks sells these for all three years, what is the difference in radiator supports. I will take pics of mine and I still have my original support for reference. Not that I doubt JohnZ, but my rad support was factory GM from 1984. Pics to follow.

That 1984 radiator support is a service replacement, not a "factory original" part; they're usually consolidated to cover multiple applications, and they frequently have different mounting provisions for bolt-on items. My '69 is a 100%-original, untouched, unrestored, unmolested car, and the voltage regulator mounting is exactly as shown in the Assembly Manual; here's a photo of the voltage regulator mounting - this car hasn't been touched since the day it was built. :)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-2/13522/VoltReg.JPG

:beers:

Jonesy
Nov 6th, 05, 07:45 PM
Case closed! :beers: