Now we know (what may be) the real story. Charlie told Boyd about his decision and Boyd felt betrayed........Charlie went to "the competition". Charlie left Coddington to save himself and reconnect with his wife. Boyd made it seem like Charlie shot him in the heart. Coddington needs to examine himself. Good luck Charlie and do what is right for you.

Boyd seems like a real arrogant idiot. I hate to see Charlie go because I enjoyed watching him on the show. I think Boyd knows you just don't go out and get another guy like him.

I think Boyd should have handled this with a little class but he didn't. He showed his true colors, he doesn't care about anyone but himself IMO.

Yeah what a jerk. Boyd only cares about himself and he showed it.Boyd wouldn't even shake the guys hand. He had that 'after all i did for you' attitude. I think Charlie went above and beyond for Boyd.You can only keep a pace like that for so long.

Until I watched AHR I always thought Boyd must be one heck of a car builder,but after watching the show all I have seen is an arrogant jerk giving orders.
If Boyd is such a great friend of Charlies he would not have acted like he did.
OOOOOhhhhh mmmmmaaaannnnn,this really is a soap opera for men isnt it :rolleyes: and Im caught up in it too
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I really felt sorry for Charlie! What a nice guy, I like the way he treated his paint shop guys, he compliments them when they do good!
How manny all-nighters can a guy be expected to pull!

I guess everyone that leaves him is a trator in his book, while in reality they are worn-out and can't handle it anymore.

They should call the show American Burn-Out and I don't mean the car kind of burn out.

David

i don't know how Charlie didn't punch him in the face.. hell, i wanted to jump thru the tv and punch Boyd in the beard then stomp on his skull when he fell to the floor.
and i'm not a violent person.

did anyone else get the impression that Charlie and Boyd's wife were "more than friends"- so to speak?
yeah, this is kinda like a soap opera..

i really got a kick out of how they showed the human side of Dwayne. who knew he was from Wisconsin?

YOu know i have alwyas thought that Boyd was a cad because I never ever see him work on the cars. All he does is yell at his employees and order them around. At least Foose will do some work on his projects. After watching AMH i lost all respect for Boyd. I refuse to watch the show now

you guys are getting a little caught up in this aren't you ;)
i watched about 15 mins total ever of that show, i'm a total car guy, so any car tv is good tv. but that show is crap. its the "survivor" of car shows, it offends most peoples intelligence imo.
also, if i had a boss like boyd, or that jackass thats apparently the shop foreman or whatever, they'd need an on site proctologist to remove my boot from thier asses. anyone that thinks they need to yell at or talk down to thier employees is clueless/classless in my book.
look at how chip foose handles his crew for instance, that guy is a class act, and has the talent to back it up. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

"Chip Foose is the devil??" graemlins/sad.gif Can you believe Boyd and Dewayne?

Originally posted by novaderrik:
i don't know how Charlie didn't punch him in the face.. hell, i wanted to jump thru the tv and punch Boyd in the beard then stomp on his skull when he fell to the floor.
and i'm not a violent person.

did anyone else get the impression that Charlie and Boyd's wife were "more than friends"- so to speak?
yeah, this is kinda like a soap opera..

i really got a kick out of how they showed the human side of Dwayne. who knew he was from Wisconsin? Derrick,

My buddy and I thought the same thing!

Jody

68rs406
"they'd need an on site proctologist to remove my boot from thier asses."
LMAO thats too funny smile.gif

LMAO!!!

FYI - It's TV! I haven't seen the episode in question, was it a new one or is everyone hashing over old news? We already know Charlie went to work for Foose from a Rides episode a few weeks ago. I talked to Chip at the SF Hotrod Show, not his exact words but it went something like "On the show I work for TLC, I'm just an employee. They wanted to fire me after the first episode was filmed". They wanted to fire him because he wouldn't do the soap/reality drama like Boyd on AHR... Take that for what it's worth with respect to Boyd and his "crew of misfits". For what you see on TV they are all TLC employees. The show is scripted, it's not a real representation of what Boyds shop is like. Unfortunately for Boyd he didn't stand up to the TLC folks. My guess is he doesn't mind being the bad guy as his work speaks for itself. It does too, Boyd had maybe 5 or 6 of his creations on display at the show and let me tell you, there was nothing wrong with the them. They were not my cup of tea but each and every one oozed top notch from what I saw.

My guess is Blue Bear and Charlie were ready to move on and the show put a spin on it to make good TV. It sure got some of you worked up...

I wonder if Boyd stiffed the air freight company on the bill to ship that car to Hawaii ? it must have cost a fortune to ship it.

DJD, last night was new. It was the episode where Charlie actually left. Boyd basically called him a traitor and told him to leave now,never come back.Charlie tried to shake Boyds hand,Boyd refused Said he was leaving him for the competition.Said Foose was the devil and was planning to steal Charlie and all Boyds other guys all along. it was quite entertaining.

Don't ya just love a good script! lol ;)

Originally posted by DjD:
Don't ya just love a good script! lol ;) If it is a script, then Boyd doesn't have very much self respect. A sell out. Just give me the money & I'll be anything you want. LOL smile.gif

But, come to think of it, I could probably lose some self respect for a bit of cashola. LOL :D

SHOW ME THE GREEN BABY!! LOL I'll be anything you want, just show me the green. tongue.gif

i'd heard stories about the way Boyd runs his shop for years. everyone "in the business" thinks he is an arrogant, selfish *** of a man.
The Discovery channel execs probably heard that, too, and decided he would make for entertaining tv along the lines of the Teutuls on American Chopper- but at least Paul Sr will show his workers respect and actually do something around there and not take all of the credit for what they build.

Don't you just love the way Boyd is such a leader and takes his employees out to Snow Board, or Parachute, or takes them to shows in Hawaii. Wow what a great gut he is. I am sure TLC did not pay a single dime for these activites...it all on his dime(?). I do not know if this is all an act or not, but I agree with some of you that I would most likely beat the snot out of Dwane if he cussed at me over and over...snap, me being hauled away in hand-cuffs.

I have a hard time believing Boyd would let himself be portayed this way if it really wasn't his style. Too much risk to the future of his business.
It's not fair for Boyd to expect all of his employees to hate his enemys as much as he does. He has no regard for anyone but himself. He would rather Charlie work round the clock on all his short order projects than realize his own goals. He refused to see Charlie and Charlie's priorities as important. He owed Charlie alot more than he's willing to admit.
Glad to see Charlie move on. I hope it works out well for him.

If you want to get more info check out the AHR message board.Charlie posts there from time to time. Forget his screenname though.
http://discovery.infopop.net/1/OpenTopic?a=cfrm&s=6941912904&f=6991906096

Charlie posts as 'IdahoBoy'. He's also on the Overhaulin' feedback forum recently too.

Hi ! I agree with all you guy's... Boyd is an arrogant fool in my book. I know they may be trying to make a TV show interesting, but at what cost ? Anyone that watches last nights show would never have Boyd do work for them. If it is all an act, they better be paying Boyd well, because he's losing customers !

I have worked for A hole's that act like boyd act's on this show , if it is a script then yes they better be paying him well he will lose customer's , and I am yet to see him turn one bolt :rolleyes: if someone gave me a car and it had boyd's wheel's on it I would take them off put them on the recycling truck and sit the car on four cinder block's !

Acting?? Come on! I guess Boyd is Laurence Olivier. Next he'll be doing Broadway. He's not that good.. He's definitely TYPE cast. Remember when he Cried " I'm the guy!" I realize it is TV, and it is manipulated, but I'm not naive enough to think Boyd is a good guy.

I'll tell you one thing,look at Charlie's face while Boyd is giving him the talk and you can tell it's serious. They weren't acting during that meeting IMO.

Hey Derrick, I'm with you man, Charlie must have been banging more than dents in the 'body shop' Jo was a little too upset about his departure and the 'hey Babe' and arm around the shoulder to the private 'off-camera' cry fest was a little too much. This has got to be a soap opera.

Geeez!

Mike

American Hot Rod is a 1 hour program. Probably 12 minutes of commericals, 18 minutes of actually working on cars, and 30 minutes of scripted TV drama. I'm waiting for the eposide where Duane gets TKO'd.

I used to work at a custom/resto shop in NJ that reminds me a lot of Boyds shop(minus the wheels) The owner was the same way. Arrogant a-hole. He thought he was a Foose or a Boyd. Awesome facility. Employees were as talented as all get out and built some award winning cars.He treated them (us) like crap,work late,work Saturdays, and he took all the credit. The day i walked out was the happiest day of my life. When i watch AHR its like a walk down memory lane. I feel for those guys, and i know how Charlie feels, probably like the weight of the world was lifted off his shoulders.

I'm just curious, but would anyone out there have any idea what kind of money these guys make?

I don't know what the employees make, but I have been told it is north of 100k to have those guys build you a car.

I talked to Boyd at a good guys meet in Indianapolis a few years ago when I was around 14. I was in the only area of the bar that they would let me into at 14 while my dad and his buddies got some drinks. I was watching the lakers vs. pacers NBA finals game and talking to him and his wife. He seemed like a nice guy. I had no idea who he even was until my dad came to get me and whispered under his breath, "That's Boyd Coddington!" I don't know how he is around the shop, but i know that he's not always the arrogant puke that the show portays him to be.

Why are the cars they build for the show always in the background ? Are those pieces of crap breaking down that much? And I hope Charlie is banging Boyds wife.That would make for an exciting episode.

sick67, Maybe that is how they got the shows name....

Originally posted by sick67:
And I hope Charlie is banging Boyds wife.That would make for an exciting episode. LOL :D That's sick, Sick. LOL :D graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Charley made the right decision...

Boyd sure made a bigger *** of himself. He has got to realize that life is too short to hold grudges (Fooose). Duane actually said something that made sense. Loan him to Foose for 6 weeks and let him come back. Boyd says No, we'll be OK.

I dont think so!

I think Charley should have talked to Jo first and she might have been able to help work a deal with Boyd.

Just an after thought...maybe Charley doesnt really want to come back after painting the car for Chip.

Bob

I think the "bangin" is out of line guys. In the show, the comment was made, by Boyd, that Charlie had lived with him and Jo for several years. I think they are just good friends and Jo was really surprised. Boyd, on the other hand, scripted or not, came off as one "biggie size" jerk. From what I can glean from the show and Charlie's posts (at the other site), Charlie is in California and his wife is still in Idaho. He travels to see his wife and the deadlines are seriously eating into his weekend travel time. As any other person, Charlie must do what is best for him. It seems he gave Boyd 6 to 8 of his best years and you all saw how Boyd said goodbye. Calling him a traiter, going to the devil. Boyd just proved what he is, a A-1 jerk. If Foose is the devil, sign me up. Charlie even told Boyd he wanted to stay to finish the next "project" and Boyd told him to leave. I am happy for Charlie and wish him well. Boyd will survive. After all sequels are in now. "THE JERK II", starring Boyd Coddington and Steve Martin. Mans soap or not, pass teh peanuts.

So who all is left on that show? Charlie is gone, Blue bare, Beetle Bailey, the foriegner....seems the only one left is DUWAYNE, and the guy that never moves his upper lip.

So who will be next? Duwayne or the stiff upper lip guy?

What site is Charlie posting on ?

You didn't see Boyd's ex-wife crying!

sorry, just a little joke.

Originally posted by clill:
What site is Charlie posting on ? http://discovery.infopop.net/1/OpenTopic?a=cfrm&s=6941912904&f=16610425

I think the whole show is a total embaressment,i mean half the crew are morons,they screw up everything they touch,there motors never fire half the time,i cant believe boyd would have ever agreed to doing a ridiculous degrading show like that,what does that say about there company? I think boyd should fire the whole crew,duane and freddy kruger included, and hire paul jr and vinny and start building choppers.

Telling everyone to calm down because the show might be scripted sounds like your trying to justify Boyd's behaviour and paint a picture that everything is OK behind the scenes and it's OK to go on liking Boyd Coddington. Let me tell you, if the show is indeed 'allegedly' scripted and Boyd allows this to go on...then I agree with the general consensus on here that I have even LESS respect for the guy than if this was all real (which, in fact, I think it is). It doesn't make it OK.....it makes it worse.

On a side note...I don't think Charlie and Jo had any kind of romace going. Charlie doesn't seem like the type to do that to his Wife. Although...I wouldn't be surprised if Jo had a little crush on Charlie, I mean....look at the shrivled-up old cracker she has to go home to.

Long Live Chip Foose.

Folks are judging someone they don't know based on a personality presented on the tube! I've seen his cars up close and if anyone from this site can match his shops work quality they haven't shown it! He may indeed be a gruff old fart in real life I personally don't know. Do you guys that are so quick to hate the guy feel the same about the bad guys of pro wrestling? How about the actor that plays the bad guys in a movie, do you hate him in real life? This is getting real silly, reminds me of the shut-in old lady neighbor that use to tell me about all the things her friends were up to when I'd see her at the mail box or laundry room. She sure ran with a wild crowd by the stories she would tell! Well it turns out she watched soaps all day and the people she was talking about were the soap stars personalities!! :eek: Another neighbor filled me in on this gal, his wife watched the same soaps and recognized the storys...

Did someone actually tell folks to calm down? what did I miss?

Originally posted by sick67:
Why are the cars they build for the show always in the background ? Are those pieces of crap breaking down that much? And I hope Charlie is banging Boyds wife.That would make for an exciting episode. Just about died laughing!!! graemlins/hurray.gif graemlins/hurray.gif

I'm sorry Boyd, I had you all wrong. I've been enlightened and now see you are a man of honor and integrity. :rolleyes: tongue.gif

after thinking it over, i think they should scrap AMH altogether, hire me to do a show called American Camaro, where i get to hire 14 to 20 morons to do the job of 1 guy,then when they screw it up,i get to kick there asses all over the shop, then walk back to my office and slam the door, then schedule my 12 oclock full body massage,now thats livin man.

I grind away at everything, I should get a job at boyds

:cool: I remember when I first heard about the show I thought it would be great.What a let down. I wish they would just show how the cars are built and skip all the drama! The thing that drives me nuts is all they are worried about are the deadlines. I think these guys are artists and that you should not rush this kid of work. For gods sake this is not you local body shop! I think most of it is a script but whether it is or not it makes all of them look very unprofessional.

drama queens isn't even worth watching

Like I said in October......"Yup indeed, the Boyd show was great the first time, fair the next, and then making me a bit angry the final time. DJD said it right, it's un-real reality car TV...let's call it "rod-fo-tainment". These guys are trying to do a job, but we get to see all the crisis events. But the smooth, well planned projects get no tape because it's boring. Some projects do go smoothly, but most have drama, and that's what we see. It also is a look into the life of a small business, with plain folks, (jerks and geniuses, craftsmen and hammer mechanics) making a living. In the end, it's still scripted somewhat, and I don't care for the image portayed....that hot-rod fabrication is done with so much pathos, whining, and theatre. "Romeo, Romeo, where for art thine T-bucket?"