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ddonzella Nov 28th, 05, 05:43 AM Well I did it! I just bought an LS2 and 4L60E Trans Combo complete for my 69 camaro. It came out of a 2006 GTO with about 50 miles on it. I'm curious to know if it will fit with the alternator and A/C compressor presently on the bottom? It is a tightly packed engine. I have the right oil pan for it. Anybody out there done this install yet!!! Also, how do you make the most of the computer readout (the dash digital display) feature that GM's use now, you know, engine temp., oil presure, alternator? Should I buy an aftermarket subframe to do this?
Thanks
Dave
Eric68 Nov 28th, 05, 06:45 AM I'm definately not an expert on this, but I believe the LS2 install will be pretty similar to the LS1 install and there is some good info on this board on the LS1 conversion if you do a search. I think it involves a custom oil pan, special headers, and motor mounts to go uinto a 1st gen. I'm pretty sure you don't have to do anything to your 69 sub-frame.
CarlC Nov 28th, 05, 08:49 AM Teetoe at American Touring Specialties (ATS) will know, and have, everything that you will need for the conversion.
http://www.t56kit.com/site.html
Eric68 Nov 28th, 05, 09:05 AM Congrats of the feature article last month Carl! I think it was CHP, right? Or SuperChevy . . . I always get those two mixed up. Anyway, very nice pics and write up. :thumbsup: It was a good read
ps. here's a link with a pic and more links with info on the swap.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66381&highlight=LS1+conversion
camcojb Nov 28th, 05, 09:34 AM That's a cool setup. I have an 05 GTO with the LS2 myself. Building a twin turbo engine for it, should be a blast.
I second the Tyler at ATS recommendation.
Jody
Ethan67 Nov 28th, 05, 01:39 PM The LS2 throttle is drive by wire, I think. Unless there is some sort of conversion for a mechanical linkage, are you planning on using the gas pedal assembly from the GTO?
CarlC Nov 28th, 05, 02:34 PM Thanks Eric. It was CHP.
Ocala67RS Nov 28th, 05, 05:31 PM Dave, did you get the combo at turkey rod run, and if so was it off the trailer from Atlanta? I was looking at that group of motor for a 55 that I am working on for a friend. Also there is a artitle in CHP on them putting one in a 68 convet. It a lot easer than you think. Thanks Jerry
edd Gordon Nov 28th, 05, 05:57 PM I saw that Trailer he had some nice engines set ups, It was temping to buy one but I just don't have the time anymore to build one up.
69Project Nov 28th, 05, 07:52 PM Go over to LS1Tech.com, they have a whole section on conversions and vendors that sell the various parts and pieces you will need. That site has boat loads of information on this. They seem to stick LSX engines in just about anything over there.
BonzoHansen Nov 28th, 05, 09:35 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/SIBLY/Emos/post.gif
ddonzella Nov 29th, 05, 02:20 PM Yes Jerry,
It was the engine at the front of the trailer. I think it was a great find!I am using the fly by wire throttle also. It's a two bolt fire wall install. Thanks to all who have commented on my post. I will keep you informed on the progress.. BTW I'm also installing a C4 corvette rear suspension on this car also!!
Ethan67 Nov 30th, 05, 10:48 AM What are the details of the by wire throttle install? The LS2 looks like a great engine, and that has been my only concern in a retrofit.
shanekennedy Nov 30th, 05, 12:05 PM if you want to avoid the drive-by-wire, you can buy a F.A.S.T. throttle body for ~$500 & run drive-by-cable
ddonzella Dec 2nd, 05, 09:30 PM The fly by wire is easy. Remove the old throttle assemby in the car. Bolt the fly by wire assembly to a verticle spot on the fire wall and plug the harness through the fire wall into the main engine harness. Thats it.
Teetoe_Jones Dec 5th, 05, 11:27 PM We make some pretty cool stuff engineered to make that swap a bolt in for your model of car.
Here is a picture of our new LSX engine mount plates:
http://www.classicchevy5speed.com/images/American-Touring-Specialties/ATS-LS-Motor-Mount-Kit.jpg
We also make a fabricated road race oil pan, tubular headers, and T56 install kits. Give us a call and we can discuss the project.
Tyler
Dave I Dec 6th, 05, 06:10 PM Will these work for a 73 also. I dont see why they wouldnt. ????
The motor mounts.
We make some pretty cool stuff engineered to make that swap a bolt in for your model of car.
Tyler
camcojb Dec 6th, 05, 06:16 PM We make some pretty cool stuff engineered to make that swap a bolt in for your model of car.
Here is a picture of our new LSX engine mount plates:
http://www.classicchevy5speed.com/images/American-Touring-Specialties/ATS-LS-Motor-Mount-Kit.jpg
We also make a fabricated road race oil pan, tubular headers, and T56 install kits. Give us a call and we can discuss the project.
Tyler
Looks awesome Tyler. Pretty much like all your parts, everything's top-notch.
Jody
Teetoe_Jones Dec 6th, 05, 10:10 PM Will these work for a 73 also? I dont see why they wouldnt.
Yep, they sure will. We are about to begin installation on Jeff's car from Classic Chevy 5 speed:
http://www.classicchevy5speed.com/Silver_Bullet_Camaro.htm
Jody/CarlC-
Thanks for the kind words. Coming from guys who know what good 1st gen parts are, it is very much appreciated.
Tyler
ddonzella Dec 7th, 05, 08:49 PM Great!! I need custom Headers and the engine mounts. I'm buying a wayne dues subframe. Will your parts fit his subframe??
Teetoe_Jones Dec 7th, 05, 09:29 PM Yep, they sure will.
Tyler
ddonzella Dec 5th, 06, 09:34 AM Well it's been a year and the LS2 is running great! The install was not bad to do. I used a martz sub frame and the engine with tranny went right in! My car is a factory a/c car and I purchased stainless works Wayne Due headers and had the two rear tubes modified to clear the A/C box. Fit really nice! No clearance issues at all! What a nice car!
clwilcox33 Dec 5th, 06, 09:40 AM Pics!!!!
boodlefoof Dec 6th, 06, 10:12 AM Out of curiosity, what did you do for your fuel pump/regulator situation? I'm going to be going with an LS2 in the future (in my Datsun 240-Z) with a fuel cell and would like to hear your experiences in this area.
ddonzella Dec 12th, 06, 02:13 PM I used a rock valley /gm in tank fuel pump. The LS2 requires a one line fuel feed to the fuel rail and one return line via a late model corvette fuel filter/ regulator. The regulator has one inlet and one return on one side and a discharge to the fuel rail on the other side. It is preset to 90 psi for the LS2 engine. I placed the regulator up in the engine compartment not back by the tank. This should help iliminate vapor lock because returning fuel will be from the engine compartment not from just in front of the tank which would allow fuel in the engine compartment to heat up do to slow movement..
camcojb Dec 12th, 06, 02:23 PM I used a rock valley /gm in tank fuel pump. The LS2 requires a one line fuel feed to the fuel rail and one return line via a late model corvette fuel filter/ regulator. The regulator has one inlet and one return on one side and a discharge to the fuel rail on the other side. It is preset to 90 psi for the LS2 engine. I placed the regulator up in the engine compartment not back by the tank. This should help iliminate vapor lock because returning fuel will be from the engine compartment not from just in front of the tank which would allow fuel in the engine compartment to heat up do to slow movement..
Actually you'll likely find that regulating fuel up in the engine compartment will absorb a lot of heat, sending the hot fuel back to the tank. On long drives this will often be a problem. Especially if you go through the fuel rails first before bypassing to the tank. Ask me how I know. :o I run a bit higher fuel pressure to prevent vapor lock 55-60), just like GM does with the Vettes and GTO's that have no fuel return from the engine compartment.
90 psi, really?
Jody
boodlefoof Dec 12th, 06, 03:40 PM 90 psi sounds a bit high. I was under the impression 59psi was stock for the LS2, is that right?
ddonzella Dec 16th, 06, 10:01 AM Well i would agree but the Street and performance people and the Rock Valley people said 90 psi is it on the bypass regulator.
camcojb Dec 16th, 06, 03:34 PM Well i would agree but the Street and performance people and the Rock Valley people said 90 psi is it on the bypass regulator.
90 psi is way too high. Do not expect the pump to last long. The factory LS2 fuel pressure is 58-60, and then only on the returnless systems.
Jody
ddonzella Dec 16th, 06, 07:43 PM Thanks, I will do some additional research on this.
BonzoHansen Dec 17th, 06, 07:36 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/SIBLY/Emos/post.gif
I stand by my initial post. :)
ddonzella Dec 18th, 06, 02:15 PM OK Bonzohanson!!! I am now a paid member and am learning how to post pics and upload and down load them!! Stay tuned. Promise.:hurray:
ddonzella Dec 21st, 06, 09:20 PM 2159Ok, Here you go!:hurray: 2157
ddonzella Dec 22nd, 06, 07:24 PM :hurray:
BonzoHansen Dec 23rd, 06, 08:04 PM Cool, thanks.
What is that floor jack?
69Project Dec 24th, 06, 10:01 AM Looks like an ATV type jack to me.
ddonzella Dec 25th, 06, 04:03 PM It is a motorcycle floor jack from Sears. Came in very handy with sliding the subframe around. Very balanced and stable. Great tool! I also used it with a jig to support and fit the Corvette rear end assembly.:beers:
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