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freebird
Dec 23rd, 05, 07:21 AM
HI All, I have a 700R4 in my 68. Stock converter, 3.08 gears. Anyway, just wondering what controls the shift point in the tranny. All my shifts are real firm but are at 3,500 RPM. Not getting to use the "fun part" of the rpm range...If I shift it up Manually no problems I can wind it out. Anyway Can I Change that shift point up?

Thanks
Chris

onovakind67
Dec 23rd, 05, 07:56 AM
I use the governator from a V-6 S-10 pickup in my 700R4. It upshifts at about 5400 rpm at WOT. Real easy to change, just pop the old one out and stick in the new one.

69Mike
Dec 23rd, 05, 04:18 PM
I have a 700r4 in my recently finished 69. There is an adjustment on the throttle cable. Mine is right behind the carb near the coil. You can loosen the fitting and then adjust the shift points. I adjusted mine and it made it like a new car. Previously it was shifting out way too soon. Now it will hold in a gear till near the red line. I have a 3.55 12 bolt. That 700r4 really makes for a good combination-good acceleration and good manners on the Interstate. I have a 71 Chevelle SS and I need to do the same for it.
Good luck.
Mike

Mike68RS
Dec 23rd, 05, 05:51 PM
There is an adjustment on the throttle cable. Mine is right behind the carb near the coil. You can loosen the fitting and then adjust the shift points. I adjusted mine and it made it like a new car. Previously it was shifting out way too soon. Now it will hold in a gear till near the red line. Mike

You should not adjust shift points with the TV cable. You can damage the trans. Read this, especially number 6. (http://www.transmissioncenter.net/subject.htm) You need to adjust the governor springs and weights. The sell kits to do this.

Mike

Pro Built Automatics
Dec 25th, 05, 01:20 AM
I agree with "You should not adjust shift points with the TV cable". The TV cable should be set at near zero play at WOT, for maximum transmission life and the shift points at WOT should be adjusted using different combinations of inner weights & springs to achieve the results you want. Anything more than a "click" or two away from MAX TV, can have negative results on the unit.

rcatalano
Dec 30th, 05, 10:25 PM
Is this method of adjusting the shift points the same for a 2004r? Does anyone sell a kit with different weight springs?

onovakind67
Dec 31st, 05, 01:42 AM
Tuning

Governor
Replace the governor if its only shifting at 3600 RPM. Get one for a Monte Carlo SS or 442 which will shift the highest of any 200-4R governor (5000 RPM).

Here is the scoop on 200-4R governors:
The governor in a 200-4R controls wide open throttle (WOT) shift points. The governor consists of (2) weights and (2) springs. The lighter (smaller) the weights, the higher the shift points.

All non performance trans received governors that were designed to shift at 3000 rpms WOT. Monte SS (CZF) trans shifted at 4800 rpms WOT as did the 442's. The 84-85 Turbo Regals shifted at 4800 rpms WOT, the 86's shifted at 5200 WOT, and the 87's shifted at 5000 rpms WOT. You can buy these directly from GM at about $60 garage cost.

Some common governor problems: Occasionally when the trans shifts from 3-4 at WOT, the springs in the governor like to fly out. This will cause a no-shift at WOT from any gear. The solution is to drop the pan, take out the governor and put the springs and check balls back in it. It should be noted that the 86 & 87 TR trans only have one spring (thus higher WOT shift points).

It should also be noted that the trans line pressure also influences the WOT shift points. It you use Art Carr's high pressure valve and spring, the RPM's quoted above might increase. I ran into a problem where my car would not shift at WOT. I checked the springs in the governor as mentioned above, but that wasn't the problem. I had the Monte SS governor in the trans as well as Art Carrs high pressure spring and valve. I wanted my 403 to shift at 5000, but the RPMS kept creaping pass that at WOT. I felt it eventually would shift at 6000 rpms or so, but at the expense of my 403 staying in one piece. So I put the original Monte SS valve and spring back in the trans and lowered the line pressure considerably and that solved the no shift at WOT problem. Now the car shifts a 5000 rpms very consistently.

From:
http://www.442.com/oldsfaq/oft200.htm

Another good 2004r site:

http://www.drwtransmission.com/thm_200-4r.htm

rojo
Dec 31st, 05, 03:06 PM
Is it possible to tweak the governor with a B&M governor kit to get a 6000 rpm shift point. Mine shifts at 4500 now. It's a BTO 700r4.