Hi all;

I know it's another one of those what's it worth posts. I have looked over e-bay and classifide adds and want you opinions. I have some basic pictures and I can tell you a little about the car.

It is base coat clear coat and still needs to be color sanded. The trunk pan and floor pans were replaced. It has a new grill, and other trim along with emblems and fuzzies. It has 4 new ralley wheels, 67 caps and trim rings. 4 new tires. The interior is not done but has "everything" new from Year one for all the soft parts and dash pad. New carpet, headliner,package tray armrest bases and new window cranks sill plates. Fold Down rear seat.

Drive train is a rebuilt turbo 350 and good running 350 with about 30,000 miles on it. The rear end is a Ford nine inch with I think 3;42 gears, don't know if it a posi or not. I am going to see the car on Sunday and need your help. Please post you comments and let me know what you think it's worth. I know it's not an SS and it is not being sold as one. Owner says it's a clone.

Pictures of car below. It's dirty!

Thanks for the help!!
Joe

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[ 03-19-2005, 07:12 PM: Message edited by: Joe Harrison ]

A few more pictures.

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New chrome bumpers. Nothing else done to suspension except 9 inch. Power drum brakes and A/C car. A/C not working no comp and lines.

Joe

I would say solid 20-25k because of the documentation.

Looks like a good car

I would take a good look at the underbody before you buy it! I hesitate when buying anything thats had the floors and trunk pan replaced. It may need alot more work (like frame rails) or it could be a hack-job. These things will have a big effect on the value of the car. It's easy to make a peice of crap look pretty.

GConnsr;

Thanks for the tip on frame rails. I plan on looking over the underbody. I am told it had very little rust but enough to have these replaced. Owner says he did not want to have patches done and cost was not much more to install complete parts.

Remember this car "IS NOT" an SS. It has documnets but don't know what they code to. Told it was a 327 210/HP glide car?

69CamaroRacer, I put in the first post it was not an SS, would you still put those kind of numbers on it? I would buy it in a second if I thought I could get that out of it!

Joe

I think 20-25 is rather optimistic. I would say more in the 10-15 range, depending on condition.

I would say around 12000 possibly more if the rust repair is nicely done and there is no more rust to deal with. If there are major rust issues to deal with, I would keep looking

Dont over estimate the value of documentation that does not represent the current configuration of the car. In this case it proves only what it is not. In this case it would be the value of an average sheetmetal roller in addition to the installed wholesale value of the drive train. I would say in this case around 12-15k max.

I would also agree. 12-15k max. If the frame is solid and the patch work was done right.

I picked up a 68 in a trade very similar to that one except it has the numbers matching 327/210, glide, 10 bolt, factory ac but without the SS badging. Rust free done running & driving AZ car.

I would guess that on ebay I would be lucky to get 12k out of the car.


My buddy just sold a nice rust free never wrecked 69 camaro on ebay with a brand new very nice hugger paint job, very nice interior, non numbers matching engine/tranny for 13.5k.

I guess it depends on where you are. That car would probably fetch at around $15000 to $20,000 in the northeast if there is no rust and the interior is decent. My buddy is just about finished restoring his 67RS. He bought it as a rolling shell with a 12 bolt for $3500 around 1994. He built a 350 537 rwhp, installed a built m21, added an interior, hotchkis suspension all around, master power disk up front, 11 drum kit in the rear, and had it painted corvette electron blue with silver z28 stripes. Car is beautiful and loud as hell. Someone saw his car in his garage and offered him $40,000 on the spot. He has over 10 years into the car and he's not selling it.

Leaving to she her in about an hour. Have a drive of about 100 miles. Please keep the comments coming. They are all a big help.

Joe

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Well just got back and the first thing I noticed is it has a 305. For some reason I think the owner knows this, but is playing it off. THe car has all the original sheet metal and the trunk pan was not replaced. Only the floor pans were. From what I saw I don't even know why? THe car has very little rust. I got in the trunk and look at the back window area thinking repairs were done and it was very clean. Hardly no metal work. Looked at both 1/4's very closly and they they both are near perfect. Drivers door was repaired pass door looks very nice. Bottoms of both doors are nearly rust free. I would think this car was kept under cover and not left to sit outside. The cowl hood is a GM peice by looking at the notch in the rear. It has as a fold down rear seat and all the parts are there. The arm rest bases for the rear don't have coverings. The console is pretty nice and is original to the car but was painted over the orig blue to a lighter blue. THe A/C system is missing the compressor,lines, brackets and everything in front of the radiator.

Now here is one thing I thought was sorta odd. It has a 5/16 fuel line? Don't know how the protecto decodes.

So what your opinions people. I don't want to disclose a price as we in negotiation. Please help by giving your opinions.

Ohh ya it has cal tracks, a spool with 3:50 or so gears and an extra rear end with 3:00 gears and open. It has a nine inch rear converted over to Chevy bolt pattern. Turbo 350 trans.

Joe

A 305? I'd say that throw's a monkey wrench into the whole deal, especially if the owner is "trying to play it off", by your own words. That would make me run right there, but with that being said, I'd still consider it seriously if the price was under 10K........IMHO. KZ

If the car is that solid it would seem to me that its worth well over 10k. You cant even buy a shined up terd for much less than 10k. "Trying to pass the 305 off" is of course a concern but the car (body) is what it is.

10k-14k should buy that car all day long. Under that is great, over that...well let some other sucker pony up the cash. :D

A Ford 9 inch with a spool, Cal-tracks, and a 305? This doesn't make sense. This car was set up for the 1/4ml. Most people don't run a spool on the street. He must be hiding the real engine. I hope the body hasn't been twisted. Racers have been known to dump cars that don't launch straight anymore.

[ 03-21-2005, 01:26 AM: Message edited by: GCONNSR ]

I thought the same thing and looke dthe car over pretty good. Now with out putting a frame machine or something I don't think I could ever tell. One thing that makes me think it was never really very fast. It has drum brakes in the front. The front end parts look to be in in very good shape and the car sits level. I also messured distance from tire to wheel well.


Joe

upwards of 15k...final answer... ;)

It sounds like they never finished building the car because of the drum brakes. But when you drive the car, make sure it is not dog-tracking.

Well I hope to able to anounce a deal was struck in the next week or two on her. We firmed up over the phone but nothing is ever done until it's done completly! I am getting a 350 core with the car.Since I will be driving it I don't need to be getting V-8 MPG and have a 305!

Wish me luck

Joe

[ 03-24-2005, 06:39 PM: Message edited by: Joe Harrison ]

Many racers back in the day used drums all the way around for less drag. It had to have been a 1/4 mi. car that someone was bringing back to show/shine car. A 68 SS car could have been had with drums anyway, so aside from the drivetrain, the car is on the right track as a clone. Need to ditch the spool for street driving though. Easy to do on a nine inch. Pics look pretty good. Keep us posted. :cool:

I agree with Paulm. 10K seems like a stretch. Last summer I sold a rust free 68 rs, AC, ps, pb, new deluxe int, tilt, fd rear seat, new red paint, tach & gauges. Really, needed nothing. Advertised nationally and on TC, and had a hard time getting 16,500. Good luck in your pursuit.

[ 03-24-2005, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: thorpe67RS ]

Hey thorpe67RS

Clicked on your link and WOW!!! NIce Shop and cars you have there. That 67 is a pretty one! Love that yard too, that's a very nice home.

Joe

Well it's mine. Total cash out for it after doing some trading is about $8,000.00 maybe a little less. That is what I had into what was traded. So I figure that's what I paid for the 68. Will post some more pictures soon. I am now the owner of 67 and 68 Camaros.

Joe

It sounds like a great deal. These cars are only going to keep going up in value. To find a decent driver in that price range is getting harder. Good luck with your new car! See if you can contact that original owner and find out more about the history of your car and get some old pics too.

Been looking on the web for the old owner. Not sure were to go to get info other than putting it in search engines. Any ideas?

Joe

you got it for $8K worthof PARTS! Congrats, you ole horsetrader, you done GOOD!

Joe,
Thanks for the kind words. Just saw your response as this post just came back to the top of the list. Unfortunately the 71SS Chevelle you see in the picture is not mine, its my buddys. Congrats on the car...it looks like you got a great deal.

This is classic, It would not run when I first looked at it a week or so ago. It would only run for few seconds and die. I was told the carb needed a rebuild and the possibly has a bad fuel pump. Figured no big deal I can deal with a $17.00 rebuild kit and new fuel pump.

I put 5 gallons of gas in it and it runs and starts no problem and pretty darn good considering some of the things it needs fixed to make it right. Still needs some tuning and a few other things but it does run quite well at this time. Now it's time to tackle some messed up under hood wiring, get the trans kick down on it, fix an oil leak and the biggest reason it will not run very well. It has amojor vacume leak.............the brake booster nipple is not plugged and the bkake booster is hooked to the back of the carb. It sounded like a vacume after I got her running!!

Joe

Nicely done Joe! Now you need to start looking for a '69!