I decided to switch gears today for a change of pace, and started looking at what I was oging to do with my headliner (install myself or not) and I have a quick question. I received the car with the headliner out, but all of the bows still in it, sitting in the trunk. Today, I went ahead and put the old headliner back in, just to familiarize myself with the process. Now, my headliner has 4 regular sized bows, and one very thin bow, which does not appear to have anywhere to connect to on the body. Does this bow just sit in the hadliner, as a support or something? Is my haedliner modified (re: screwed up) by the previous owner?

Another question. In all of the threads I searched, I have not seen mentioned the little flat steel bar on both sides of the car where my headliner appears to have been stapled, and then coverd by the sail panels. Again, is this a modification, or is this how it is supposed to be? It looks like it is supposed to be that way.

Hello, The thin bow goes in the middle and attaches to the frame of the roof,if you look there should be little cut outs that hold the rod in place. you also have to put it in the headliner first. It does not attach to the side like the others do! Just take your time with it and make sure everything fits before you go triming the edges off!! I hope this helps you I have installed a few of them and it does take some time Good Luck Jimi!!!!

A heated interior or a hot day will help loosen things up.

Thank you guys. I did find the place where it clips to the roof. Can't wait untill I get to install it. I just dropped the visors off to be recovered. Piece by piece, bit by bit.

Try some info here I typed awhile back:

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=46474&highlight=headliner

Start from the middle and work out to the sides, front to the back.

The sail panel area attaches the same, the cloth gets glued to the inside, and then the cloth is rolled around the edge and catches onto the dragon teeth. The sail panel goes the same way, then the molding presses onto the edge to keep the material 'latched' onto the teeth.

There are four clips in the backboard of the sail panel to keep it on the wall. Sometimes this cardboard is broken and the clips will not stay on. You have to get 1/8 inch Masonite board and make the panel to match the cardboard shape.

As suggested, "sun soak" the headliner to make it stretch to give a good tight appearance. Mine has a couple ripples on the driver side at the rear windshield. I lost my patience alittle and getting close to the end of the job, I wanted to get done as my thumbs were aching from pushing the material onto the dragon teeth. You can't see the ripples in the dark and from looking forward when driving.....LOL

In order from front (windshield) to rear:

1 - short 46 5/8"
2 - short 46 5/8"
3 - thin wire (center bow)
4 - longest 49 1/4"
5 - medium 48 1/4"

I have read on more than a few threads that guys have used velcro to hold the sail panels on. Has anyone had any long-term success with this? Also, when you glue the headliner to the body, about how far from the edge should you glue it? I was thinking that mabe an inch worth of glue from where the fabric is folded around the edge. Does that sound abour right? If this is a confusing question, I'll try to clarify it.

I thought about installing my headliner myself and had many questions about doing it, but I wanted to see how much it would cost to have it done professionally before I started. I went to a local well known trim shop and they wanted $275.00 and they could work it in in a week or so. A friend suggested and guy in a small town an hour away from me that works out of his house garage. I called him and he said that it would run $125.00, but it would be a couple of months before he could do it. He was back logged big time. I figured that if he was that busy he was in demand and was good. I went with him. I did a perfect job in about 4 hours working around a roll bar. I wasn't going to mess with it for $125.00. It pays to shop around.

Also, when you glue the headliner to the body, about how far from the edge should you glue it? I was thinking that mabe an inch worth of glue from where the fabric is folded around the edge.
Usually, upholstery shop go up about three inches. You might look what GM did by the leftover glue if it is still there.