http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6290/camaroconcept8oo.jpg

Here's a link to the video.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=3124

Where is the video?

looks like GM made R&T take it down. It was still working when I posted it on Team Chevelle. As of right now there was still a picture of it in a thread in Team Chevelle's Bench Racing section.

In my opinion i don't care for the looks of that concept Camaro..at least on the stangs, they have the old style 64 1/2-and on look, but these new Camaros dont even come close to the first Gens...not even a little bit...just my .02..:sad: .

In my opinion, I think it looks much better than the clay model. I am reasonably happy with the lines.

I do think that the grille is weak. Particularly (and I know I'll get heat for this) next to that grille on the new Challenger.

I think it is a good attempt at a new Camaro with retro traces, but clearly not what I would call a retro car. I know GM does not wish to put all of the car's eggs in the retro basket, and I can respect that. But the grille just does not do it for me. I need a little more first gen there.

Just one Camaro lover's opinion. If you showed me that car and said it was an unnamed concept, I would say I liked it. I am just not sure about it as the Camaro. It's kind of like when a band you really like gets back together and makes a song. Oftentimes, it is pretty dang good with respect to 90% of songs out there, but NOT as good compared only to the bands old songs.

Where's the I hope so option? So I didn't vote. Overall I like the new Camaro. There's definitely some things I would like to see changed, but I still hope the bring the Camaro back.

No I don't think they'll make this car, but because of the crisis that GM is in right now, not because of the design.

As far as the design goes, if I want ugly I'll buy an Aztek. GM has got to break away from the Aztek influence on most of their vehicles before I'd buy another one. Nothing wrong with a new body style, but if they are trying to capture the excitement of the first gen body style then they've failed again. This car does not resemble or capture the feel of a first gen car. They'll have to be free to start from scratch. Apparently GM stylists aren't free to express themselves, instead it appears they have one hand held to the current styling fire.

Ford got it right, Chrylser got it right with their concept of the Challenger RT, why can't Chevrolet?

I like it. I do agree the grill could be changed a little more to reflect a 1st gen better if that's the route they were trying to go (which I think is obvious). I think if they increased the grill size vertically it would look a little better.

2009 is a LONG ways away. By then Mustangs and Challengers will be selling like hotcakes.

make then ose a little less pointy, and the rear half less boxy- and it might be kind of cool.
the roof line seems a bit on the low side compared to the other lines of the car, as well. and the wheels are painfully generic.
all in all, not too bad- better than the clay model pics, to be sure.
make the base engine the I6 out of the trailblazer, with the LS2 as a option- and the LS7 as the ultimate option- but keep the price point nice and low- and just watch them FLY out of the showroom.

now, where's Infamous? I'm sure he has something to say about it...

Here is a video of it that still works as of 8:30 EST.

mms://c9o.earthcache.net/woc-01.media.globix.net/COMP000787MOD1/roadandtrack/2006/0601_camaro_hi.wmv

I still like it. Grill is a little pointy and rough, but this is the CONCEPT! :) GM will refine it more for production.

Here is a Photochop of an RS theme, looks good IMHO

http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/4653/camaroconceptrs6se.jpg

Thats what I'm talkin about! Awesome. Like the fact that you lost the ram air duct at the front. Much cleaner look. Gotta love Hugger Orange! Use some retro style Z emblems on the front fender to set things off. Nice work!

Thanks, Bob

I can't take the credit,though. I found it on another Camaro board, but really like the styling.

Cheers,
Mike

That photoshop copy is really awesome!

I’ll agree that this RS version is much more palatable, but something in the body line on the fenders still looks too blocky for me. The fender design needs to be a little more retro for my taste, and maybe reduce the relief between the nose and the grille at the corners...

I was all set to hate this thing after seeing the previous pictures but after seeing the video it is starting to grow on me. Anything less than a total copy of a 69 was going to dissapoint me. There are good 69 styles in it I like the roof line and the sides but the grille and tail lites need work. I sometimes have a hard time accepting the fact that everone does not think like me. I challenge anyone to go to a newstand and try to find a old car magazine that does not have a picture of a 69 camaro in it. This is clearly what alot of people want and after GM gets feedback from people my hope is that they will change a few things on the production car. A car that small with a 6.0 liter and a 6 speed should be a blast to drive and since I work for a Chevy dealer I cant' wait to drive one!

ZZMike, Thanks for posting that chopped pic! The bergundy/red wine color needed to go imho. Hugger + stripes looks way cool! I think seeing the car in person would make a huge difference too! I'm really liking it so far! A little tweak here and there and speed up production (if possible) and we'll have a great car on our hands!

Dano:hurray:

6.0L 400hp / T56 6 speed nice start :cool:

Hope they have a option for the vette engine 505 hp,I will buy one with that option in a heat beat,also would like to see some paint options with the bandaid stripes, Come on dont let Mopar and Ford out do you!

6.0L 400hp / T56 6 speed nice start :cool:

That was stated as 400 rear wheel horsepower in the video clip... :thumbsup:

That was stated as 400 rear wheel horsepower in the video clip... :thumbsup:

Dennis, That means that I could drive from my place to yours in under 12 hours @ WOT :D
Dano:beers:

Assuming the 2009 model year is right, the math means this is two model years away plus who knows what kind of delay and sticker add-on for the Z28/ZL-1 equivalent high end car that I WILL buy. At that point, the 04 Mustang I bought (because there wasn't a new Camaro option) should be ready for trade or transition to race car status and I'll be ready for the new Camaro. A lot of folks think the handling of the new Camaro by the GM folks is either textbook stupid or simply incompetence raised to the corporate level. The fact is that they have adapted the production schedule for the new Camaro to meet my personal timeline for a new muscle car that isn't a Corvette. Quite frankly, I appreciate their responsiveness to my needs and apologize to anyone who has been inconvenienced.
Jack

PS: GM, please disregard all above (as you've done with so many other loyal customers) if the Ford dealer calls back and agrees to sell me a new Shelby GT 500 for window sticker.

First of all, I think GM will make this car. Barring gas prices hitting $4/gal I think the sports car market will stay hot. The Challenger is getting a lot of press and the Mustang has been a huge success for Ford.

As for the styling, I can see the influence from the 69 though I'd like to see something else done with the grill and the lines smoothed out. I'd need to see more of the car, but initially it doesn't excite me the way the Challenger did.

The Muttstang designers really came up with a design that reminds me of the front end and roof line from the 67 fastback. There is no mistaking the influence of the 70 Challenger on the new one. I think the feedback that GM will get will reflect that the potential buyers want something that is unmistakably a Camaro. Right now its just another car with a big Chevy logo on the front.

Hugger orange Photoshop pic is a big step in the right direction, but it is still an ugly car to me. Sorry guys, GM still has to break free from the Aztek influence to get this one right. Maybe by 09 that styling trend will have run it's course and they'll get it right.

Showed the wife all she said was "Oh man that's ugly!" She's been a Camaro fan since I met her in her 72Z back in 81.

There is more 99 Mustang influence in this car than anything Camaro. I see a lot of body lines off the 99 Stang. You can't have fully round big wheelwells and then try to add the 69 body line crease half way down the wheel well opening, that just looks terrible. If you are going to copy a 69 then copy a 69, don't put the large 67-8 wheel well openings and throw a 69 wheel well fender crease on the body half way down the opening. The grill looks like nothing ever on a Camaro, you've at least got to try to capture the essense of the first gen or don't copy it at all. Very little about this car says Camaro outside of the logo. It'd be a shame to see them produce this in it's current form. I know most will not agree with me, but I just can't get over how much Chevy missed the mark on this one. I think anyone of us here could have done a much better job. Maybe once they look at the Challenger video it'll sink in at GM.

No its not perfect yet but it is better looking than the new mustangs. And i liket the new mustangs. Its funny, when i first saw the new mustang i was blown away. Now that i have seen the challenger concept car and the camaro the mustang looks like yesterdays news to me.

Yes, they will build it.... now that it's been unveiled to the public.
:beers:

Now lets all support GM on the new Camaro!

I gotta admit the thing is growing on me. The car looked a lot better in the video than that red pic, which was better then the clay model. Now I see this today:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/funonwheels/01/09/detroit_camaro_concept/index.html

I swear if they ditch the beak on the front-end, just straighten it up a little from fender to fender, rather than that sharp "v", I just might learn to love it.

pics I took this morning http://www.camcojb.com/detroit1.jpg http://www.camcojb.com/detroit2.jpg http://www.camcojb.com/detroit3.jpg http://www.camcojb.com/detroit4.jpg

love that console!

The new design is awesome, leave the retro stuff behind, we already had are 67-69 camaro's bring the future on. Save the retros for the PT cruisers and hh3'S. Bring the new stying on. The challenger looks awesome but more of a chip foose remake and not a new vehicle. Leave the old dead!!! (and Valuable)

pics I took this morning http://www.camcojb.com/detroit3.jpg

Kind of a "mule" of sorts wouldn't you say Charlie? Thanks for the pic's...

Anybody have an idea on the planned wheelbase? The car looks alot "smaller" in Clill's pictures, than I had invisioned.

They better!

If people cannot see the influence of a '69 in that car then they are blind...

http://www.pro-touring.com/mule/DSCN6844.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5711/camaro120061ng.jpg

Here are the specs from Automobilemag http://automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_chevrolet_camaro_concept/

Just to prove that German automakers aren't the only ones who plan products based on what their rivals have done, GM comes out with the Camaro--a retro-styled, two-door coupe with a honking big V-8 that harks back to the glory days of Motown. If that sounds familiar, that's exactly what Ford did with the Mustang. Hot on the heels of the Pony car's success, DaimlerChrysler has dusted off the Challenger and Chevy has produced a new Camaro, a nameplate that was more recently interred. The muscular Camaro concept is pure '69 updated, with the kind of subtle detailing that makes it look up-to-the-minute. The interior is very glitzy, and pays homage to the original, even down to the GM seat belt insignia and the twin instrument pods.

The car is 186.2 inches long and rides on a 110.5-inch wheelbase. The wheels are 21s at the front and 22s at the rear, shod with monster 275/30 front and 305/30 rear tires, which should be able to corral the 400 horses from the LS2 6.0-liter V-8 engine powering through a six-speed manual transmission. The show car has a cobbled together chassis with an all-independent suspension, but if it makes it into production, it will use the so-called Zeta Lite architecture that will be shared with Holden in Australia. The good news for GM is that the architecture--while hardly cutting edge--is far more sophisticated than the live-axle Mustang. Insiders say that a $20,000 base model production car could use an inexpensive V-8 (the LS2 would come in a costlier model), so a V-6 version would be offered only to make the car easier to insure. The real car would have smaller wheels, but the overall diameter of the tires wouldn't be much changed. GM vice-chairman and product czar Bob Lutz apparently loves it and joked on the show stand "all I have to do is persuade this man"--referring to GM CEO Rick Wagoner--"to pay for it."

I like it alot. Being that its a prototype, I think a few things will change. I would like to see the grille opened up a little and get rid of the ram air hood. Cowl hood would be cool; Dig the interior too.
Already planning/schemeing on how to buy it! The wife "thinks" that I would be getting an automatic......
heh heh heh
NOPE!!

I see influences from both the 67-8 and the 69. Looks like a lot of the lines are 67-8, such as the line down the side.
I read that it was going to be about 186 inces or about 15 1/2 feet.

If it was built like this I would buy one. I am sure that we would be able to buy some kind of grill kit for it. I think that is about the only thing I disagree with. I don't hate it but think it could of been better then again I drive a 67 ss/rs and do not particularly care for the 67-8 standard grill.

If people cannot see the influence of a '69 in that car then they are blind...

The influence is definitely there. Personally I'd like MORE of that influence to show.... or be more obvious. I hate to keep saying it but the new Rustang absolutely looks more like it's earlier 'influence' than the projected Camaro does.

But I guess we have to keep in mind that this IS a "new" car, something that won't be on the road for quite a while yet and for sure benefits from some contemorary/modern styling. That's great! As it should.

IMHO, it should have a more obvious resemblance to the '69 is all. Even if the front clip/grill and the tail stay the same, at least move that rocker area body line up where it belongs. That alone would bring the resemblance much closer to the First Gen.

Looks like it should be a Cadillac. the Back looks OK but they need the 69 side bodyline and eliminate the round fender openings. The grill looks like an Impala. Needs work, but glad to see it coming back. I would not buy one at this point.

Wow! Just saw the Challanger; They got it right and as usual GM is dropping the ball.

Ok, everyone has their own view of this Camaro, and I think that GM is trying. I personally think that it needs something else....I "feel" that the roof line is too short compared to the rear end. Just my opinion, but I think it looks like a beefed up Chrysler Crossfire! Who am I kidding though...I will still get one. It is a camaro..........?

well i'm not in love with it but it's really not too bad for a 1st concept. it's certainly better than the other computer drawings that've been out there for a few years. imo, what needs to be modified...1. the grille is too narrow from top to bottom the opening needs to be bigger 2. the flare off the door bottoms is horrible - way too angular - if they smooth that out it may look way better 3. something is wierd about the side view mirrors - i can't quite put my finger on it but i just don't like them...although they are way better than the expedition style mirrors on the 04-05 mustangs....LOL

i don't think this car will ever see production.

I do see alot of styling of the 1st gen camaro's but chevy didn't do it as much as the chryler and ford guys, the new style of the camaro looks great, the front nose could be jsut a little different though, I'm sure if theydrop in a LS7 for the Z28 would make everyone dream of one in a heartbeat.

I do see alot of styling of the 1st gen camaro's but chevy didn't do it as much as the chryler and ford guys, the new style of the camaro looks great, the front nose could be just a little different though, I'm sure if they drop in a LS7 for the Z28 would make everyone dream of one in a heartbeat.

Ok, now they are getting closer. If it's a new body style no problems here. If it IS suppose to be a retro first gen, and NOBODY at GM has ever come out and said that's the intent there guys, we are just assuming they are playing the same game as their competitors, then they still have some work to do. Start by dropping the Corvette back end and my mother's Impals front end. Then I'd like to see a pic of one without the ground effects rocker panels pulled out so far. I hope they can do that because we know when it comes to the hardware they could bolt into it it'll be better than the competition.

Keep voicing your opinions, apparently GM has heard the moaning! But we can't let them off this easily.

by 2009 ford will probally already have a new new mustang out, always seems like chevy misses the boat jsut a little bit, that's why i'm glad not to see it totally retro

Chevy missed the boat in the old concepts, but they are getting closer with the latest. Nothing wrong with taking your time if you end up getting it right, they've always been the last one out of the gate in the past and they've gotten it right most of the time. It does frustrate us though to have to look at the competition and not have anything to counter while Chevy is doing their homework.

Hope they have a option for the vette engine 505 hp,I will buy one with that option in a heat beat,also would like to see some paint options with the bandaid stripes, Come on dont let Mopar and Ford out do you!


Can you say COPO...HeHe

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=108825#6

It is like a bad summary of all the previous models.......

IMHO

Lose the Corvette tail lights, Add a Camaro retro grill, not the Challenger grill. A couple of chrome fake air horns on the hood would help. And it looks like the guy that designed the Aztec got a job at Chevy’s Dash and instrument Department Come on you guys at GM, you only get one shot at getting this right and this one misses the mark. This Camaro had better be at lease as retro as the Stang. Don’t you hear the people?? Mustang retro-ed the Grill, Rear end, Dash, Body stripping. You Detroit boys want to know how to build the next Camaro? Come to this web site and LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!! Forget the 500 HP crap too. You need to put a affordable version in the show rooms to get these Tuners back on American shores or its Sayonara Baby.

Ok…… I’ve calmed down, I’m done…………Breath deeply…..

I have to say, I love it! I know alot of people have been saying they don't like the grille because it doesn't exactly match the lines of the 69, but I don't necessarily want a rehash of an old car. I like the Challenger, but it looks too much like the original, with a slightly more square stance and a little rounding of the corners is all. The GM concept looks enough like a Camaro to be one, but it has just enough of it's own characteristics to give us something new, and malleable for future models and grille changes. And as for the wheel wells being round (67-68 like), and not squared off at the top like a 69, well, all I have to say about that is MORE ROOM FOR MASSIVE MEATS!!! I don't have the wheel fitment problems on my 67 that some have on their 69's, and I'm glad for that. I say, if they brought that thing out soon, with the LS7 option, I've already got money in the bank pegged for one. That same color silver with black stripes and I'm there!

I don't see how they couldn't build this car.

If they actually promote the thing & get involved in racing, performance & show cars they will put the mustang in it's place. (Behind the Camaro)

Paul

Personally;
I could care less that they used F-22 fighter for design influence (sorry Lockheed & Boeing boys the F-23 was a better design) what the heck does fighter design have to do with a car? There's not a cue there I can see from an F-22. He..He..maybe the mirrors thats it! The new F-22 mod is mirrors to detect incoming heat-seakers!
Couldn't help myself......

T

I believe that it has missed, not entirely but slightly in a lot of area's. Dodge guys appear to have gotten really lucky, the Ford guys have already spoken with there wallets and we sit here as a group going maybe 50-50 on the new design. They do need to lose some of the blocky look to pick up some sexiness and the front end and rear end need to get a little more retro in the look for me. Just an opinion, I don't think the General has room for many more huge mistakes and we need this one to be dead on. Good luck.

Im sorry but I keep seeing opinions on how the Mustang and Challenger look good. There are alot of things I would change on the Camaro Concept however the Mustang does not excite me (I didnt like that body style then, and I dont like it now, especially the ass) and the Challenger looks like a bubble ready to pop (the front is hideous).

gm was smart they would hire this visionary and make his vision a reality.. check this out http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0312PHR_Fifth_Reloaded/index.html

People! Can we all agree that short of a time machine taking us back to 1968 and buying a brand new '69, we won’t be happy? (plus a LS2 in that’69) I like the concept. Little too Corvettish in the rear. I have a hard time visualizing the actual size since there aren’t many items in the pictures to give us scale. I do hate to hear the word "compact" used. Let's face it; GM will suffer (even more!) if they don’t compete with the Stang or that new Charger.

Who cares about the price? GM will make it competitive. I just want a REAL muscle car. When it cranks, people should turn to look and when it drives people should stop and point. No Cobalt!

"Can we all agree that short of a time machine taking us back to 1968 and buying a brand new '69, we won’t be happy"


If I had a time machine, I'd use it to hire the Challenger design team to work on the Camaro concept. How ironic... using a Delorean to steal engineers from Chrysler for GM.

Seriously though, I don't really think the Camaro is too bad. I kind of even like it. But I am sticking by my Challenger vote.

dear God please kill Bob lutz, hes killing chevy

dear God please kill Bob lutz, hes killing chevy

Not a very pleasant thing to wish on someone and it's your 1st post here too... :clonk:

I think the car is absolutely stunning. The few things I don't care for are extremely minimal. If THAT car was available today there's a VERY good chance I'd have a red one in the garage.

I wonder if the guys that want the LS7 option know what the crate LS7 sells for. The pricing would more than likely drive the cost of a Camaro up near a LS2 C6 Vette. Just give me THAT car (in red) with an LS2 and I'll bolt the magnacharger on it. :D

http://popularhotrodding.com/hotnews/0601phr_camconcept04_z.jpg

Keep in mind that this is a "concept" creation and the final version won't look exactly as shown (if they DO decide to build it).

It definitely won't have 21's up front and 22's out back, that's for sure.

Remember the Mustang concept? Well it's the same, sort of... the final production model turned out to be a "skinny tire" car (and not alot of room to put bigger meats either!).

My opinion is that it looks pretty good here, and I like it better than some of the other renderings that were floating around earlier. I can only hope that the production model comes close. I'll probably get one if it does.

JD

Scotts picture shows me a line on the front hood that i havent seen from any other picture. It looks like it goes up a little and the "beak" doesnt look as pronounced... I still dont like the C6 rear and the mirrors but that car is growing on me...it looks mean from that angle

yeah, give me the LS2 and let me up the power my own way... LS7 would be nice, but not for an extra 15K... maybe 5K over the LS2 and Id take it...

im gonna buy one :)

http://popularhotrodding.com/hotnews/0601phr_camconcept04_z.jpg

Is there a resemblance?

http://www.pro-touring.com/events/pigeon_forge/pictures/207-0742_IMG.jpg

If they can build an LS-7 version for between 40-45K, I'll buy it.

Mike, I thought you said you wanted the in-line 6 version for fuel economy! :D (J/K) It's really growing on me too! I have seen pics from different angles and with different colors on the car and the front end doesn't look as bad as I thought it was. Go find an old country 2 lane hiway and take a nice long cruise! Sounds good to me ;)

Dano:beers:

Mike, I thought you said you wanted the in-line 6 version for fuel economy! :D (J/K) It's really growing on me too! I have seen pics from different angles and with different colors on the car and the front end doesn't look as bad as I thought it was. Go find an old country 2 lane hiway and take a nice long cruise! Sounds good to me ;)

Dano:beers:

I have the money and have already started polishing up on my excuses to convince the wife. As far as fuel economy, I have to run my '04 Mustang Cobra (yeah, I know) on Trick 101, and it's $6 a gallon. I'll drive the crap out of that LS-7 Camaro until pump gas gets that high, after that maybe just on Fridays. :thumbsup:

Looks OK, but I think all of the Chevy design team should take a look back at the Kris Horton 2003 model. If you have not see that design, look for it and compare to the high paid chevy design team.

That one just looked too "cartoony" to me.

That one just looked too "cartoony" to me.

I agree! The 'McBride" rendition looks the best IMHO! I have been slowly pitching the hint that we should buy it in a few years too.lol She wants an Audi A6 or something. :rolleyes:
Dano:beers:

The new camaro is bad to the bone it is it's own car it is not supposed to be a first gen car or a replacement it is supposed to being back some memories, but it is a little something that the general public will enjoy not just the first generation owners no disrespect to any one who feels this should be more of a clone of the first generation car. I believe this car is a tad retro but at hte same time it can also stand on it's own as a great seller and as far as performance goes it would smoke almost all of the first ganeration cars if you placed them stock versus stock by far this car will set the standard for camaro it is very powerful and more track worthy than any other camaro from the factory. I give GM credit for coming up with something new that will make almost everybody happy! (because we are all different people that is a very hard task and for the most part I think that we will all just be happy to see a new camaro!)

From the horses mouth (so to speak..) GM is not building this car anytime soon...mostly because of financials. Hope that changes!

From the horses mouth (so to speak..) GM is not building this car anytime soon...mostly because of financials. Hope that changes!
And where is this horses' stable? LOL
I'm looking for the Camaro by 2010 Model year :D