View Full Version : what to do to a '67 302


blazronrokrs
Feb 13th, 06, 01:22 PM
ive just come across a 302 out of a 67 camaro z28. it came with complete bottom end and heads. what all should i do to this motor?? i dont want to spend over 2 grand on these parts (heads, cam, intake, carb, breather) to get it running.

what i really need to know is should i use the stock heads or which ones should i get to replace them?

what cam, carb, and intake should i use?

and on another note, im putting this in a s-10 blazer, mostly for the street, but i dont drive it much, and i dont want a tranny/gear that would rob the motor of power, so what tranny and rear gear should i use?

any answers are greatly appreciated, and any links to full buildups on this motor would be even more appreciated.

thanks,
mike

Larger Dave
Feb 13th, 06, 01:28 PM
Sell it to some one who wants a concours, numbers matching, Z-28; there should be some one who wants it more than you. With the proceeds of the sale of the 302 plus your $2000 rebuild budget buy a 350-383 crate motor and install that instead. A 350 is a better engine for the street than the 302; which is a dog until it starts to rev (bear in mind they shipped with 4.10 rear gears). Further the 350 will be less of a maintenance hassle, and comes with warranted piece of mind. The 350 is more than enough motor to put your S-10 in the 12's; the 383 should get you the 11's if you match gear and trans for the strip.


Larger Dave

novaderrik
Feb 13th, 06, 01:50 PM
i'd say to build it up pretty close to stock, stick a 5 speed with 4:10 gears behind it, and enjoy it.
it is, after all, your engine. if someone restoring a 67 Z/28 wants it from you, get as much $$$ as they are willing to pay you for your factory destroked 327, and THEN build the 383..

and don't forget to put the 302 badges on the fenders.

deejaygee
Feb 13th, 06, 02:03 PM
I suggest you contact Jerry Macneish who owns the 1967 Z28 registry. His # is 410-781-0418. If you give him the partial VIN # from the engine, he might be able to put you in touch with the owner of the rest of the car. Sell the engine to the owner of the car and use the money to buy yourself a new 502 crate engine. Reuniting a 67 Z28 with its drivetrain is magic!

pdq67
Feb 13th, 06, 02:18 PM
The block is stamped "MO" or "MP", isn't it??

pdq67

1FASTZ
Feb 13th, 06, 03:08 PM
I'm with largerdave on this one...sell it for some big $$$ and buy yourself more cubes...

Jonesy
Feb 13th, 06, 03:37 PM
Sell it to me!!! Where are you located?? My engine is out there somewhere!! Last I heard, my original engine block was in a machine shop in Oak Harbor, WA being held hostage.....Long story

pdq67
Feb 13th, 06, 07:52 PM
I guess I asked too STUPID a question here..

pdq67

blazronrokrs
Feb 13th, 06, 10:02 PM
The block is stamped "MO" or "MP", isn't it??

pdq67

ill have to look, my cousin that builds cars had the motor to put in his wifes camaro, but he decided to sell that car, and ive been lookin for a v8 to put in my truck so he suggested id go with this motor, he lives in gillis, louisiana about an hour from me, so i wont be able to check until this weekend.

i dont mean to sound so much like a newb but what kinda money are people willing to pay for this motor, and how much would the owner of the matching car be willing to pay??

im still debating on what i should do with it, so far more of you guys are saying to sell it, rather than use it, i just wanna know what im up against.

CFunK
Feb 13th, 06, 10:40 PM
You aren't a newb, just a business man. :)

As I see it there are a couple of things in play. It's not everyday you come across a 302 for a '67 Z28. And if it is a '67 302 it would be a shame to put it in your truck and not return it to i'ts rightfull owner or someone who has a NEED for such a motor. You don't NEED a 302 from a '67 Z28 in your truck. However someone restoring a '67 Z28 does have a need for such a motor.

Take some time with the decision. A motor for the truck is a motor for the truck, BUT a 302 for a '67 Z28 is priceless or there abouts. :)

clwilcox33
Feb 13th, 06, 11:24 PM
I'm with everyone else. There were only 602 67 z28s built. That motor is damn near priceless to the owner of the car it came out of. Reuniting it to the original car, or if that car can't be found, another 67 z would be the absolute best thing you can do, not to mention the very decent cash you could get for it. Like was said above, call Jerry. He'll know if the car is still around most likely. If it's not, Jonesy would be a great person to have that engine.

pdq67
Feb 14th, 06, 05:27 AM
This is why I ask b/c there are too many people out there that are restamping blocks and such JUST FOR THE MONEY.

If at all possible, post pic's of the VIN b/c there are guys sharp enough here to spot a non-stock VIN restamp b/c of this unscrupulous crap going on!

pdq67

PS., I try to always tell everybody that finds/gets something to verify what they have b/c it is a sick feeling to find out later after you have paid your money that you have a 283 instead of a 302 or a 267 instead of a 350 motor in what you bought or stumbled across out of the car is all....

AND I really hope you do have an "MO" or "MP" motor.

I saw a block in a small rail job years and years ago up at South Bend, IN at the great big swap meet/show in Notre Dame's Dome that had "MO" on it and never forgot it!!

JimM
Feb 14th, 06, 06:15 AM
PDQ and the others are deadright! Get us some pics of the block pad, as well as any identifying markings on the crank and any other original parts you can find.

A proven 67 302 is ONE out of Six Hundred and Two. If it's real, it is EXTREMELY valuable. IF IT"S REAL IT DESERVES TO BE REUNITED WITH IT"S CAR, if the car still exists, or with another 67 Z if the original car is gone.

Between this site, camaros.org, and Jerry, the odds are pretty good that the current owner of the original car can be found if it still exists.

Jonesy
Feb 14th, 06, 06:47 AM
Take pictures of the stamping on the pad and casting dates/numbers on the back bellhousing flange. I doubt my engine made it to Louisiana, but you never know. Lets see what you have.

pdq67
Feb 14th, 06, 06:17 PM
Thanks guys for backing me up here!!

AND I sure hope he's got a REAL one!!

pdq67

JimM
Feb 14th, 06, 06:41 PM
Would be great if it was real, and if we could find it's rightful home.... a real cinderalla story. Stay with us on this, Mr. Newb, if not for the "right" of it thenm for the coin you could make on it.

big mike
Feb 14th, 06, 07:00 PM
I've been looking for my motor for 10 months now and have yet to come across even a good lead. My motor is only a MS, if you reunite a 67 MO block with its rightful owner, they will feel like a Lottery winner. Come on, do the right thing!

Jonesy
Feb 14th, 06, 08:20 PM
I want it to be an MP code engine. :D

SooperDave
Feb 14th, 06, 11:02 PM
i highly doubt it's an original MP block, maybe the right casting though. very tough to prove - the owner of an original 67 z would probably have found a correct casting and re-stamped it by now. who's gonna wait around for a miracle like this??

Jonesy
Mar 3rd, 06, 08:34 AM
So what ever happened to this?:boring: My hunch is that we will never see this mystery engine.

bmax
Mar 3rd, 06, 02:31 PM
Yeah, I'm kinda in the same boat.
I've got a 1957 283 that the numbers say it came from a vette or a Belair. No motor mounts on the side, have almost everything for it. Got it in a trade over 12 years ago. I tried to find out if it was worth anything on a couple classic chevy sites but it has just been in storage.
One of these days I'll try to find someone who needs it for something it belongs too.

Brad

pdq67
Mar 3rd, 06, 04:55 PM
We haven't heard back yet, have we??

pdq67

Larger Dave
Mar 3rd, 06, 07:19 PM
Have you guys reads my thread on old Camaro motors and short blocks?

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75491

I would have thought this would have generated a little more interest than it did.


Larger Dave