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HawaiianCamaro
Feb 25th, 06, 01:26 PM
on the 69 POPs were they fixed in the machine that when pressed the info would be in the same place (with exception to options) on all plates. I have pics of two different 69 L78 POPs and the right side info line up fine but the VIN numbers are way off. One more centered and the other right aligned. Or since one is a VN car and the other is a NOR car make the difference?

Kurt S
Feb 25th, 06, 10:30 PM
Different plants would be different. I haven't studied POP's to see how consistent they are....

mccorry
Feb 27th, 06, 04:38 PM
Hey Jeff... what are the #'s off the LA POP? I can't read them....

36j1967
Feb 28th, 06, 06:03 AM
Different plants would be different. I haven't studied POP's to see how consistent they are....

So the POP was made at the plant and attached to a warranty book at the dealer right? What about the window sticker was it produced at the factory or the dealership? When was it applied to the window?

Kurt S
Feb 28th, 06, 07:10 AM
From http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml:
The Scheduling clerk had already produced the P-O-P from the Broadcast Copies picked up at the Engine and Chassis lines, the window sticker, car shipper, and final order copy had been produced, and these were placed in the glove box with the warranty folder and owner's manual while the window sticker was applied to the door glass.

36j1967
Feb 28th, 06, 08:08 AM
Any idea how the window sticker was applied to the window? I've wondered how the window sticker could survive intact if it were glued to the glass? I assumed that they might of been carefully removed during dealer prep and given to the customer. The reason I asked about the POP booklets origin was because of the unique 1968 "punch out" vin number in the booklet cover. That had to be done by some sort of machine? The 68 gets a bad rap regarding the difficulties of documentation. I'd like to see an attempt at reproducing that years warranty book.

Kurt S
Feb 28th, 06, 01:52 PM
That's why WS's are often curled and yellow, from the glue.

POP booklet was punched when the POP was stamped. Yes, that would be tough to reproduce. :)

River
Feb 28th, 06, 03:37 PM
36j in 1969 i saw guy at dealership where my uncle had bough a SS he wet it with water and then used razor blade to remove it the SS was red on red 4 speed i still remember the ride home

JohnZ
Feb 28th, 06, 05:50 PM
Any idea how the window sticker was applied to the window? I've wondered how the window sticker could survive intact if it were glued to the glass? I assumed that they might of been carefully removed during dealer prep and given to the customer. The reason I asked about the POP booklets origin was because of the unique 1968 "punch out" vin number in the booklet cover. That had to be done by some sort of machine? The 68 gets a bad rap regarding the difficulties of documentation. I'd like to see an attempt at reproducing that years warranty book.

The window sticker was run through a bench-top wetting tray (like you use for pre-pasted wallpaper) that applied a water-soluble cheap glue (like the "mucilage" glue kids used to use in school) to the face of the sticker, and it was applied to the window with the excess squeegeed off. The booklet cover was punched by the clerk that produced the P-O-P, and he peeled off the liner paper on the warranty folder and applied the P-O-P before he tossed it in the glove box. :thumbsup:

COPO9737
Feb 28th, 06, 06:22 PM
I had 3 new muscle cars in the 60s. The only way I got the window sticker off was wet it with a towel and scrape it off with a razor blade! Back in those days people didn't worry about saving them. The sticker had to be on the car when it left the dealership. They would not take them off for you, if I remember correctly......