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norcalcamaro Feb 26th, 06, 11:16 PM After driving my camaro for a year, I need to do something about the harsh ride. The problem I encounter most is the wheel hop when going over bumps in the road. The whole car jumps. When I go down the road, my whole body shakes & vibrates. I drive a big truck for work & I can go over pot holes & such & it feels like a luxury car compared to my 67. I'm not trying to get it to luxury car status, just a more pleasurable ride. Right now it has a 2" drop spindles in the front w/ koni shocks & in the rear a Nova multi leaf (3)w/ KYB's. The front suspension was also rebuilt last year. What would be recommended to start with. I don't have the cash to do something wild, just thinking what would be the most cost effective place to start. Hotchkis rear springs, replace all 4 shocks, front springs. Not sure where to start.
Cal69 Feb 27th, 06, 09:00 AM The first gen Camaro's don't exactly have the smoothest ride to begin with and riding in one makes you realize just how far ride quality has come in cars even 20 years newer.
I'm assuming that you are running a 60 or 70 series tire. Those low profile/ big rim combos add to harshness.
Anyways, I am running the Hotchkis package on my '69 and it rides very stiff. Much stiffer than stock, so if you are looking for a more comfortable ride then I would not suggest it. Handling however is another story.
DjD Feb 27th, 06, 10:22 AM Put your front koni's on the lowest setting and replace the kyb's in the rear with koni's also on the low setting. I respectfully disagree with low profile tires and big wheels being stiffer than steel wheels and 60 series tires. I'll elaborate when I have more time...
norcalcamaro Feb 27th, 06, 10:24 AM I figured they were not great to begin with, but I was hopping that I could improve it somewhat. I had a 68 Mustang years back & it didn't have this type of problem. Maybe I'll just try new shocks at all 4 corners.
rlovell383 Feb 27th, 06, 10:25 AM If you want to eliminate the hop, get a slide-a-link setup or cal-tracs. Also, swap the kyb shocks for something more forgiving like edelbrocks for a smoother ride.
DjD Feb 27th, 06, 11:22 AM I don't think he was complaining about wheel hop when doing a burnout. He said wheel hop on bumpy roads which comes from too stiff a suspension...
Norcal I doubt your front koni's are shot just match the rear with the same and use the 3 way adjustment on the lowest setting. I have hotchkis springs and koni shocks and my car rides great. KYB's are ok shocks but are too stiff for most streets. On a smooth track they would be good for the price, we usually just don't spend a lot of time at infinon or laguna seca to benefit from them. You pay more for the koni shocks but get street drivability as well as performance. I speak from experience about teh wheels and shock settings. I had my koni's on the middle setting and my car and the car bounce over the bumps, went to the low setting and now the tires stay on the road in bumpy corners.
As for my comment about the 17's and low profile tires offering a better ride than steel wheels and 60 series tires. Good Alloy wheels will flex more than steel and combined with decent tires (40-45 series) they will take up more shock then steel wheels and tires. I went from 15" ralleys with 60 series tires on to 17" budniks and 45 series tires on the sane suspension and ride quality as well as handling improved...
DjD Feb 27th, 06, 06:46 PM Here's the "how to adjust" on the Koni shocks...
http://www.koni-na.com/comp.cfm
davidpozzi Feb 27th, 06, 07:44 PM KYB's are harsh shocks. Koni's are adjustable so DJD is giving good advice.
If you just want to buy something, buy Bilstein shocks, I hear very good things about them. But if you have stiffer Hotchkis springs, get Bilsteins from Hotchkis, they are specially valved for their springs.
If ride is a concern, you are better off not using Hotchkis springs, use stock or just a bit stiffer than stock. If your car is lowered, make sure the suspension isn't bottoming out on the bumpstops, remember that there is a bumpstop over the pinion on the rear axle too. If you are hitting the bumpstops in the rear, a stiffer spring might actually improve the ride.
norcalcamaro Feb 28th, 06, 01:27 AM thanks for the suggestions. First I'm going to adjust the Koni's then I'll buy the matching set for the back & see how it goes.
Btw, how would I find outy if I'm hitting the bumpstops? Do I look for wear?
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