http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8047173814&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 This engine is currently @ $8,000. Wrong intake and carb unsure if 1178 crank w/ correct rods etc etc. I think that if the bidder is real he's got the original car to go with it. I think 2-3K would be plenty for this. My car is only 270 away from this one @ 475179 s/n. Any thoughts???

I saw this on Ebay as well and have been 'watching' it.
I haven't had the time, but I am only an hour away from it, and was thinking about driving down there for "sh!t and giggles" to see what the deal is.

Now, a car that is on Ebay right now, I did go and see, and it is an awesome car. Incredible condition, full resto. It is just that it is a plain jane 327 210hp with a powerglide.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4622380686&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

This guy NUZUM didn't take enough pics to do this car justice. I crawled underneath it, and it's as clean as new. It did have a full workover. Just look at the cowl tag, not supposed to have houndstooth, etc. etc.
Nice car though.

I called him today before the auction ended with a few questions about the crank, pistons, camshaft and casting dates on the heads and they did not know any of the needed info. He did not disclose what the reserve was. I would be all on it in the 2-3K range just because it's so close to my car. We'll see what happens

5 years ago '69 DZ engines were selling in the $5K range carb to exhaust with no claim they would even run. A '68 Z engine would be even more rare and prices have been on the rise these past 5 years. I think you would be wanting to buy some lotto tickets if you pick up an MO coded 302 in the $2k - $3k range...

5 years ago '69 DZ engines were selling in the $5K range carb to exhaust with no claim they would even run. A '68 Z engine would be even more rare and prices have been on the rise these past 5 years. I think you would be wanting to buy some lotto tickets if you pick up an MO coded 302 in the $2k - $3k range...
I beg to differ on this one. It's common knowledge that the 68's will never command the $$$ that the 69's do. IMO this also applies to these type parts as well. Rare does not = $$$ in some cases. About a month ago a complete long block with correct crank, rods, cam etc. SOLD FOR 2K. I talked to the owner who did not know what crank, what rods and pistons, what cam or the cast date on the heads?? I saw a complete subframe with DZ engine, disc brakes, Muncie etc only bring in the 8K range so IMO 8K is very high for this engine!!! Not dogging the guys motor just my 02. Believe me I've been doing my homework on what they've been bringing.

Rare does not = $$$ in some cases.

I'd say you may want to rethink your drink in this particular case, not meeting reserve at 8K for an MO 302 kind of sounds high, but the market is certainly there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/69-Camaro-Z-28-DZ-302-Engine-X-33-1969-X-77_W0QQitemZ4624916039QQcategoryZ34202QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

Well how's this for a good comparison to this post. Couldn't be any better to prove a point with this post. 10 day auction though. Any guess as to what it will bring??? I say in the 10K range:beers:

Might go for the big bucks if it is original. The pad looks tampered with, the valve covers look like repros and it is not the original carb as he states. There is no proof of anything in this ad.

I beg to differ on this one. It's common knowledge that the 68's will never command the $$$ that the 69's do. IMO this also applies to these type parts as well. Rare does not = $$$ in some cases. About a month ago a complete long block with correct crank, rods, cam etc. SOLD FOR 2K. I talked to the owner who did not know what crank, what rods and pistons, what cam or the cast date on the heads?? I saw a complete subframe with DZ engine, disc brakes, Muncie etc only bring in the 8K range so IMO 8K is very high for this engine!!! Not dogging the guys motor just my 02. Believe me I've been doing my homework on what they've been bringing.

Common knowledge where? Might be high without numbers on parts. Never is a strong word. I am sure there are plenty of collectors that thought '69's would never bring $50K.:beers:

I'm basing my statement on the fact that undeniably the 69 is the most popular year. I think that the 68 is still a great car but without the X codes they just don't command the dollars that a 69 does.
Before I get flamed here let me defend myself by saying that I have a 67 RS convertible, Lemans Blue 68 Z 28 which is coincidentally 270 cars after the motor in question, Dusk blue X-77 car, 1971 RS Camaro, 1980 4speed Z, 2000 SS w/docs. I love them all and I have to say my favorite is the 69. We'll see what the DZ brings. For the sake of argument the MO engine owner did not disclose any pertinent ## on his engine either.

Relax there's no point to prove... Its not about being right or wrong, it's about sharing info. How can you compare the two ads anyway? The DZ looks pristine, through and through by the ads pic's and definitions. The MO has lots of aftermarket parts and is nowhere near as complete...

You say the DZ will go for over 10K and you argue about the MO being over priced... ??? Nobody said it wasn't over priced, all I suggested is you would be very luck to find an MO engine for a couple grand. Sorry if my referencing the cost of DZ engines from 5 years ago gave you the wrong impression... As for rare well, 7,199 MOs vs 20,302 DZs. I agree that rare doesn't always mean more desireable or more $$. In reality all it takes is one guy with a pocket full of money wanting something bad enough and everyones prices go up...

As for the popularity of the '68 Z/28 you rarely see them for sale but if restored right I doubt they are really very far behind the '69 in value. Just more '69s being passed around... There is a factor that does detour a buyer away from a '68 and that is that it would be easier to come across a fake car without doc's. Once you drop from a numbers matching orig drivetrain to a drivetrain that isn't orig to the car all bets are off unless you have doc's. A '69 with a Z33 or X77 on the cowl tag is sure to be the real deal so the buyer is more confident and might pay a little more...

We don't have to agree, we also don't have to prove anything to each other...:beers: It's all opinions!

It's all good. My 68 Z is the first Camaro I ever bought. I paid $2800 for it on July 10,1984. The original owner is still alive and well and we talk monthly. The MO motor popped in 68 and I've been ISO an original MO motor. I have all my original stuff under the hood but it's a 327. The car will never be sold and just for giggles I would like to have a correct 302. I did e-mail the MO engine owner to suggest a "no reserve" auction which he declined. IMO a well executed No reserve E-bay auction is a very liable means to determine what the actual current market value really is. just my 02

Shupee, when I saw your original post it looked a typical "throw something out and see what I catch" type of post. Reading your last post I can hear your frustration in trying to put your Z/28 back original. Many of us have been there. I am just glad I did it a few years ago when prices were a little better. When I was 17 I tried to buy a '68 Z/28 for $2500. The year was 1970. Didn't quite have all the $2500.

Time will tell if a 68 z/28 isnt worth more than a 69 z/28. How often do you see REAL 68 z's selling?? I dont think eBay is a good way of gauging it. Sometimes the bidder isnt real or the deal falls out.

I think the 68 z/28 will get credit sooner than you may think.

Come to think about it, as fast as '69 Z/28's are being built the price should be dropping soon. ;)

hey you camaro bruthaah's!!!

what do you think this engine is worth?

1969 010 350block .030over
largest hyd cam crane makes 560 lift 305 duration..
trw forged pistons 11:1
billit crank!!!
pink rods
balanced
ported 461 heads 2.02 intakes

corect casting number on the following parts for a 1968 z/28:
starter
alt
dist
ex manifolds
correct fan and clutch
all pulleys!(i do have the correct alt pulley off the engine)how many noticed that?
waterpump
nos crossram carbs!
repo intake(no snowflake or part#)
date coded wires
correct belts and hoses
correct batt cables
new engine harness
1969 z/28 valve covers NOS
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c74/1963wagonman/100_0599.jpg
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Do you have any detailed pictures of the carbs with the air cleaner off?? The '68 single squirter crossram carbs are rarer than chicken's teeth.

Cheers,

Mike

they are brand new holleys part#3957859 list 4295 that i got from heartbeat city.they are undated

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Very nice job on the motor....is that for sale or are you planning something special??

an 010 block on a 68? Shouldn't it be a 678? $2,000?? J/K
Nice engine. What are you going to put it in?

i was going to put it in my 68 rs..

but now i have somebody ready to paint my car for me. so im selling it off...i have already promissed a good freind of mine the carbs and stuff..i just listed the intake on ebay.i have had tons of emails of ppl askin me questions....so it shall sell for a good price...i dont car what it sells for really.i just need to come up with some funds.......