View Full Version : Frame straightening ??


cbrooks
May 15th, 02, 07:16 AM
I have a clean rust free frame ( honestly barely any surface rust all the mounts are excellent ), but it was a little tweaked from a hard hit. I was trial fitting the fenders and it's definitely a little off.
Can the frame be straightened off the car ??
Some people say yes others say they need the doghouse,shell,wheels, etc. A buddie of mine had his frame straightened and body coated off the car at the same time. What do you all think ???

Thanks,
Chris

Baby68RS
May 15th, 02, 07:45 AM
Of course you can, but it will never, ever be the same. Would try to find frame parts if I were you.

RickD
May 15th, 02, 08:12 AM
I would think a good shop could do it. Ater all, the measurements are available to dial it in. But why bother? There's plenty of good subframe around . I paid $200 and it included all control arms, etc.

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chevyboy68
May 15th, 02, 11:53 AM
I agree. My subframe was tweaked and one side of my car was more than 1 inch higher than the other. I could see the impact on the frame it was on the first cross support on the front. I got another subframe, they're still around and usually straight. It'll probably cost you just as much to get it fixed as a new one and it will never be the same

MARTINSR
May 15th, 02, 03:17 PM
Baby68RS, I agree, getting another subframe would be the best way to go. But the "never be the same" thing is way out dated (if it ever was true). At work I use a frame machine with a robotics measureing system. It measures to a millimeter (0.0395 of an inch)and is calibrated to one tenth of a millimeter! A gental twist like this is easily repaired as good as new, in fact many times it is straighter than new!

cbrooks, how do you know it is "tweeked"? Are you just going with the fact the fender doesn't fit? How is it fitting? Where is the problem? Have you cross measured the hood opening? It could just need a shift of the rad support.


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MARTINSR
May 15th, 02, 03:19 PM
In fact, the whole thing could need an alignment on the body.

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stevo camaro
May 15th, 02, 07:10 PM
I took my RS, which was hit real hard, to be laser lined & framed straightened with new body bushings. Everything came out allright except the frame. And everything looked good. But when I got the car back, less front clip, I decided, before going any further, to set the motor & trans in with new mounts just to SEE if things were going to be right. It was a good move. Things didn't bolt up. The frame rail on pass. side, (impact side) was rolled inward, just enough to NOT allow the motor mount bolt to go thru. With some tweaking with a big lining bar it may have slid in, but then what do you do after the cars together & you or anyone else has to do a engine swap? Not to mention the front alignment alone.
None of this was visible just looking at it.
My advice, find another frame. The body shop didn't even notice or correct the frame problem on mine. Not sure if they could've fixed it right anyway.
Double checking that frame was one of the single most important things I did right on that project. And life was good afterward. http://www.camaros.net/forum/biggrin.gif

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cbrooks
May 16th, 02, 05:42 AM
I say it was a hard hit, but I'm probably overstating it. The hit crunched the drivers side fender and pushed the frame up slightly.
Probably an inch or so. The car is stripped down to the shell with the axle and frame on so I can roll the car around till I decide on the frame issue.I trial fit the front end on and on the drivers sidethe bottom fender bolt closest to the door is off by about a half inch. And it appears that side is slightly higher. Barely noticable but I'm Picky. I'm probably going to try to find a new frame, but they are harder to find around here and can you imagine the price for shipping from Jersey !!! My car came with front drums anyways and I'd love to find a frame with discs and all that jazz!!
Any ideas where to look for one in Dallas ?
But this frame is great rust wise and If it could be restored it would be great!!

Thanks,
Chris

Geezer
May 16th, 02, 08:50 AM
I’ve got a 67 or 68 Firebird drum brake, power steering, rolling sub frame (same as Camaro) I’d take $200 for just to get it out of the back yard, if you get down towards San Antonio way.

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Jagarang
May 16th, 02, 09:00 AM
I've got a 69 front subframe off my Bird that ive put a Wayne Due unit into. The old sub has power disk brakes. I was going to keep it and detail it real good in my spare time just to have in case I ever needed it or wanted to go back to stock. I could sell it just to get it out of the way.

cbrooks
May 16th, 02, 09:13 AM
Thanks for the replies. Geezer appreciate the offer but 69 is a little different.
Jagarang how much would you want for that frame/disc setup? I'm in Texas but maybe I could plan a road trip in the near future.
What is it's condition? I/E ever wrecked, rust in the mounting points, etc.

Chris

chevyboy68
May 16th, 02, 02:25 PM
I used a 69 frame on my 68. Everything was fine

cbrooks
May 17th, 02, 10:47 AM
Chevyboy68 was your camaro a RS? I've looked at a couple frames and they look different. A camaro guy in my area said the mounting wholes for the bumper brackets on the side were different. I've looked closely and seen some differences. Can anyone advise if a 67 or 68 frame will work okay on a 69 RS?

Thanks,
Chris