Just bought this car. Need help with cowl tag.


01C N675

6712437 LOS 18928

717Z EE

E 2ELS 3SL

4P


I would post pic of tag but dont know how.


Thanks,

Decode for body number: 018928

01C = Built the Third week of January.
67-12437 = Standard Interior Coupe.
LOS = Built in Van Nuys California.
717 = Standard Blue Bucket Seats.
Z = (A50) Strato Bucket Seats (without headrests).
E-E = Car Color is Deepwater Blue
N675 = internal plant scheduling code.
Options:
1E = (A01) Tinted All Glass
2E = (C60) Air Conditioner
2L = (M20) 4-speed floor shifter
2S = (U73) Antenna Manual right rear
3S = (Z23) Interior Decor group
3L = (Z22) Rally Sport Package
4P = (L48) SS 350 or (L30) 327-275H

Thanks for your help.

I wasnt sure if it was an ss car or not. It has a 10 bolt rear end with multi leaf springs. original engine and trans are gone.

Your car should have mono leaf springs and a 12 bolt. All '67 camaro's had mono leafs.

Well, because it's an M20 4 speed car, it could have been the L30/M20 and not an SS 350 car. I think the L30/M20 combo had a 12-bolt, but I'm not certain.

If it has multi-leafs, something has been changed back there anyway. All 67s were monos.

Thanks for your help.

I'm not going to make a show car, just a daily driver so, I will probably leave the 10 bolt and multi-leafs for now.

Someone had welded in a ladder bar setup and I just cut it out and welded in the deep spring perches with the criss-cross shock plates on the bottom.

I think it is similiar to what a 68 shock suspension would look like.

Is the original engine in the car? If so, what is it and what are the numbers off of it. How about the trans? If you could, please get the numbers off the front of the passenger side rear axle tube and we can tell you if it's original. Also, if you want to post pics, take a look at the link in my sig.

/Cheers

Eric, that (4P 275hp/327) only applies to Norwood built cars. Since you have a LOS build Camaro, it is an SS 350, as said, should have a 12 bolt mono leaf rear axle. How about posting a pic of the firewall to see where the speedo cable is located?

No, its not the original engine or trans. I will look for a number on the rearend. It could be gone since someone had welded a ladder bar setup under the car and I cut it out.

I will try to post a pic of the cowl tag and firewall.

I can e-mail a pic directly if you want to look at it.

Thanks,
John

The 4P code on the trim tag is for Los Angeles and Norwood built Camaro's in 1967. This code is for the use of the rear axle traction bar on the passenger side. Could be a 350 SS or a 327 275hp L30/M20 Camaro. Many LA 4P coded cars.

Weston, you are correct, but in Los Angeles produced cars, 4P meant SS350. Search this subject in this forum. It is a fact, explained many times from the folks at CRG.

Then I must have a very rare 1967 Camaro. It is a 327/L30/M20 Los Angeles Camaro. There is the 4P on the trim tag with the P.O.P and other documentation. It is all original except the starter. CRG has all my information. The only strange thing about it is the engine code is T1206ML and it is a 03D built car. Engine built 4 months before the car. Brother in law bought it new, he looked at the 67 mustang but liked the Camaro better.

Scot -

My bad, I forgot the LA 4P is always SS. I didn't see it called out like that on the CRG site, and you can't really search the forums here for it ("4P" is too short, as is "SS"; that leaves Los Angeles as something to search...)

Eric and Weston, you are correct. Scot is thinking about X-codes or CA girls or something else. ;)

The definition of 4P did not vary between the plants. A LA 4P car could be an L30/M20 or an SS.

Dang Scott, you even had me doubting my memory for a few minutes and I was just about to do some searches. I thought I was losing it, which is hard to do when I'm pretty sure I've already lost it.

Well, if Christopher (aka Mr. 67) was doubting his memory, I shouldn't feel bad I guess...

I thought that was what I read chatting with Daniel. Maybe I am mistaken. Kurt, you know I'm not from California

Checking to see if pic of cowl tag gets posted.



http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g47/johnrsweat/67camaro004.jpg

The tag sure looks like a real one to me, even though the rivits look funny. Where does the speedo cable go through the firewall at? Inboard of the steering column or outboard?

I will take a closer look to see where it SHOULD go through the firewall.
From the pic of the firewall you can tell its a mess, wiper motor mount looks like where everything goes through.
I just bought this car and have not done anything under the hood.

Whats the deal with the location of the speed odometer cable?

Thanks,

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g47/johnrsweat/67camaro006.jpg

Tag looks real to me too.

That's a 327 car. The hole where the speedometer cable would go through if it had a Muncie 4spd is not there. The L30 (327/275hp) would have had a Saginaw 4spd and the speedo cable for those enters to the left of the steering column. Meaning, you have a RS/L30/M20 car, not a RS/SS350 car. Which is still a good find!

Chris,

I took a couple more pics of the firewall. There is a hole to the left of the steering column. Also, take a look at the second pic, there looks like a hole that has been sealed off right next to the wiring harness.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g47/johnrsweat/67camaro010.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g47/johnrsweat/67camaro011.jpg

Still think this may be a an L30/M20 car?

Thanks

Yep, definately not a Muncie SS car. Still looks like a L30/M20 to me.

Look at this pic
http://www.67rs-ss.net/my67/firewall_cowl/firewall3.jpg
See the hole below and slightly to the left of the wiper motor mount hole? That's where the speedo cable would have entered on a Muncie car. All SS's with a 4 speed called for the alluminum Muncie, and the L30 when mated to a 4 speed, would have been the cast iron Saginaw, which would have it's speedo cable entering on the outboard side of the steering column (see the plugged hole on my firewall near the lower left corner of the square wire harness/fusebox hole?)