Can someone help me I am no good at this stuff?


ST 69 12437 LOS171628 BDY
TR 713 59 B PNT
11A D167

The car has a SS grill it is a 4 speed car, It has power disc brakes, power steering and is a small block car that is all know. I was wanting to know if it is truelly a SS car or what? Thanks and please hurry before this one gets away from me Thanks!!!

sport coupe-8 cyl
Los Angeles built
171628 body unit #
black houndstooth interior
frost green body color
black vinyl top
built first week of November
the info on the trim tag will not tell if it an ss.

nhra5439,Iam not the best at decoding a car but from info posted i think the guys will need more such as the vin or atleast the first four numbers of it after the L, does the engine and trans have the vin stamped on them? whats the rearend code ? pics of all them will help out a lot to answer your question. all i can tell you is it had black interior, the paint was dark green and had a black top and was built the first week of nov. could have been of 68 or 69,,,get the other info and the guys here will surely help you out.Frank

Decode for body number: 171628

11A = Built the First week of November.
69-12437 = Coupe. Does not mean V8
LOS = Built in Van Nuys California.
713 = Custom Houndstooth Black Bucket Seats.
59-B = Lower Color is Frost Green and the Vinyl Top Color is Black.
D167 = internal plant scheduling code.

12337=sport coupe 6 cyl.
12367= convert. 8 cyl.
12437=sport coupe 8cyl.
12467=convert. 8cyl.

12437 means it IS a V8...........is this incorrect?

12337=sport coupe 6 cyl.
12367= convert. 8 cyl.
12437=sport coupe 8cyl.
12467=convert. 8cyl.

12437 means it IS a V8...........is this incorrect?


Al,

Hate to break the news here, but Jonesy is right, and you are only partially correct. The above only refers to the beginning numbers of the VIN number, not the cowl tag. Since only the cowl tag was posted there's no way to know V8 or L6. Additionally 12367 would be the beginning numbers of an L6 'vert, which is erroneously marked in your table above. All '69 cowl tags have 12437 for coupe and all '69 cowl tags have 12467 for convertible, regardless of engine.

Al, its probably best to use the reference information at CRG Camaros Research Group www.camaros.org their decoding information is totally accurate and most often the folks in here refer to them as the 'primier' source of camaro data. Give them a read when you have a few hours, there is ton of information there. :) The guys are right, cowl tag does not denote engine. Also nhra since you have a car built in LA drop the gas tank and look for a build sheet on top of it. If nobody has ever had it down, you hit gold for information if its in readable condition.

Thanks Guys for the help kind of new at this ID reading. Does the disc brakes mean anything or could it still be a "plain jane" Camaro? Does not have any original drive train in it. The seats look original and have high back and head rest. Does that sound correct? I read some where to look to see if it has a bracket welded on the drivers side sub frame for the exhaust, what exactly would that tell me? Thanks Nhra5439

Also is the code 713 kinda rare or not really? Just wanting to no if it is special in any way. Thanks Nhra5439

Sorry fogot the vin 124379L507463

disk brakes could be ordered with any car so that wont help you. A bracker about 3" x 5" welded to the drivers side rear frame rail at about 1 o'clock behind the rear tire, indicates dual exhaust came from the factory, but that too could be ordered on many levels, not just SS or Z so thats also not difinitive. Have you check the gas tank yet? Thats VERY important on a LA built camaro. :)

Your VIN indicates your car was originally an V8.

All 69 cowl tags had either 12437 for coupe or 12467 for convertible on the tags.

How many fuel lines?

Does it have 2 fuel lines? If it has 1 and a factory tach what is the redline? Does it have the left side exhaust plate? 12 bolt rear?

I will have to do some checking on those things. Did all SS cars have two fuel lines and the extra exhaust bracket? Why is very inportant to check the gas tank on a LA built car Thanks NHRA5439

It does have a 10 bolt in it right now but has a spool in it and some other modifications and has a turbo 350 trans inplace of the standard tranny so it looks like it has been stripped of its original equipment. Where is the data code on the rear axle or is there one. Just wondering if it had the right year rear end at least. Any info on the custom houndstooth seats Rare or not really? Is there any thing to how many leaf springs it has or that doesn't mean anything either? Thanks NHRA5439

Not really rare, just an upgraded interior over the standard interior.

The pass side axle tube about in the center facing forward is where the codes are stamped. If the rear is original and it was a 4 speed and it doesnt have a 12 bolt, it wasnt an SS.

I will have to do some checking on those things. Did all SS cars have two fuel lines and the extra exhaust bracket? Why is very inportant to check the gas tank on a LA built car Thanks NHRA5439
Sometimes they put the build sheet on top of the gas tank so you will have to drop the tank down and if it is there it should have the all the options that were put on the car. I not shure but I think they have also been found under sits.
Bob

nhra in my first reply I told you to drop the gas tank to check for a 'build sheet' that LA cars had there. Guess you missed that line... pull the tank down and look for a paper on top of it. If its there, use caution and take photos of it and then remove it carefully.
Dual fuel lines were from cars with Roch Qjet carbs on them. It 'might' be an SS or an LM1 then.

I caught the hint about the gas tank paper work, but the problem is that the car is not mine yet, I am just looking at it trying to buy it. I don't believe I want it if it is not a SS car. The car is pretty roughon the outside so anyway thanks for all the help.. I'm going to see if i can check the rear end out some more. Thanks!!

VIN off the car?