Let this guy know he screwed up on his [fake] Z. can you list the wrong?

sorry forgot the link here ya go
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4647821295&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

I didn't look through the entire listing, but it sure seems like a lot of folks think it's real with the bid at 95k...

67 Z NO BADGES! and I believe the paint stripe down the side is suppose to end at the handle then continue. Got a pick from a brochure from some one on this site years ago of it andcopied it on my car. BIG TICKET he says all original body except for the quarters so there should be no Z badges

Funny there is no pic of the cowl tag, and its up to $95K. Hmmmm?

These bidders are nuts

Give it the benefit of the doubt guys unless you are an expert. He does say in the listing that the Z badges were added when it was repainted in 1987.

I'm no expert but I don't see the fake part. Can't see all of the block pad though.

He also says all body panels were untouched [ except for the quarters] and never damaged. drilling holes for z badges on a 67 excludes u from alot of points no? back to the pin stripe can someone repost that article in the future? I dont think alot of camaro lovers have ever seen that one.

The car is well known and has virtually all of its original paperwork. It is as real as it gets.

Can any of you read?

believe half of what you see and 0 of what you read

If Im going to spend that much on a car that says it is true it better be damb true, No mistakes. I'm sure if you got that car you would see wrong welds , wrong bolts , wrong screws. Dont forget if I had a friend in car and driver I could get mine on there as a 1 of a kind and centerfold in may issue[ If I threw him a couple of bucks] I still think its BS, show us the fender tag,pro plate and vin

Pin strips, z badges, Quarters, all that could have been added. Doesnt mean its fake. Tell us! Unless its trim tag stuff, I wanna know what you see.

The car is a real Z and has been making the high priced rounds for some time. It is not a perfect resto (an older one at that) and has a number of incorrect details and components. It also has a reprodcution trim tag on it as the original was damaged during work on the car. They still have the correct tag with it as well and everything else that is major to the car is correct (engine, etc.). This car is extremely well documented and is in numerous registries as a real Z to boot. Just because it has 68 badges or other items that are incorrect does not make it a fake. They do not claim it to be a number 1 survivor car.

No I do not have anything to do with this car. I just looked very closely as did many others the last time it went around and yes I have seen the tags and docs on it.

An exceptional all original and completely correct in all aspects,All of the other body panels are completely original, untouched and never damaged and are in mint pristine condition.There is nothing to fault this Z-28 on in terms of its originality or authenticityIt is simPlease do not request numbers or date codes as we guarantee them to be correct and inspections from serious bidders are welcome. a completely correct example of what any real 1967 Z-28 should be judged and compared to in all aspects This Z-28 is definitely now in very strong #2 condition overall and with a little more detailing can easily be a #1 condition Z-28.It won Best American Car at Megasaga car show and won best detailed undercarriage as well.

1. all of the body panels[excluding the quarters] are not pristine and correct, they drilled through them or their 68s
2.I want #s and date codes to see what its originality is WHAT I CANT HAVE THEM UNLESS I BUY THE CAR?
3. Its supposed to be a #1 car but yet with a little work it will be
4. detailed undercariage? from chevy? put it together and spray it with crap!!! thats a GM detail!
5. there are no pics of #s , rear, trans, motor[that are good] He just has paper work and maybee a vin plate

How do you ruin a trim tag???????

The car has been for sale for a while. It was advertised here on camaros.net less than a year ago--guy was looking for $150K if I remember correctly. It's the real thing, with docs, and I have to say this latest eBay ad is his best 'presentation' of the car to date. He's probably wise to not sell at $95K as a shall-we-say "less desirable" similar 67 Z28 sold at Barrett-Jackson for over $120K this past January (restamped, wavy panels, firebird traction arm, etc).

Im going to find a trim tag , pro plate and vin from a rusted Z that will never see life again and put it on a 6 cyl, then get after market disks[ call it an upgrade] a posi from anything, and a m22 from the local tranny dealer, then find an engine with the right#s and surface and restamp mo, mh, or dz depending on the one I do[67,68,69] and sell it as a Z. I wont sleep for a few weeks but FI I'll make money. BS Thats all this is about is money!! I just want the younger generation to enjoy the power of the older cars but they cant afford it, so lets just keep jacking the prices up and stop our youth from relating with us cause we want to make a ton on a cash. I'm doing my part not to bid on crap like that [ and yes I can afford it] Think about that for a while, When was the last time you took a youth to the oldest scrap yard you know? Me , 2 weeks ago.

Well, if I was a bettin man, I'd buy that 67 z before this 68 "z":

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-Z28-Camero-Butternut-Yellow_W0QQitemZ4652048123QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6161Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This car has been discussed here in the past. It is a real 67 z/28 whether chevy67 believes it or not.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80300

wow so many experts on this REAL car

no car is perfect

if you want a 67, pony up and buy it, if not ...

Chevy67...Do you just have something against this guy because people are willing to pay so much ? I would think the comments should be along the lines of " Holy crap that is alot of paperwork". How many real 67Z28's have you actually seen ? I was probably colllecting Camaro's 20 years before I actually saw a 67 Z28 in person.

Some people just hate.

Im going to find a trim tag , pro plate and vin from a rusted Z that will never see life again and put it on a 6 cyl, then get after market disks[ call it an upgrade] a posi from anything, and a m22 from the local tranny dealer, then find an engine with the right#s and surface and restamp mo, mh, or dz depending on the one I do[67,68,69] and sell it as a Z. I wont sleep for a few weeks but FI I'll make money. BS Thats all this is about is money!! I just want the younger generation to enjoy the power of the older cars but they cant afford it, so lets just keep jacking the prices up and stop our youth from relating with us cause we want to make a ton on a cash. I'm doing my part not to bid on crap like that [ and yes I can afford it] Think about that for a while, When was the last time you took a youth to the oldest scrap yard you know? Me , 2 weeks ago.

Time to chill out a bit here, you are wrong about this car so you are grasping at every nit picking detail to support your theorys... You can take your money and do as you wish, (it's yours!) Cool deal you took a youth to the scrap yard... Cheap labor's hard to find I guess.. (joking, I do appreciate adults that give kids the time of day!)

Bottom line is we need to be factual and not let small details like a badge (nobody cared in the 80's so on it went!) and the fact that installing it damaged the fender, it's not like they pulled a fender flare on the thing and claimed it came from the factory that way. Let's go back to the details a sec here and compare the things you are ragging on... It's kinda like you bringing up the fact that you can afford this car or took a youth to the scrap yard? It really has zip point zero to do with anything here but you threw it out there...

Want to see injustice? Come on down to my level and see what you get for $5K - $10K out in Camaro land these days and listen to the sales pitches about squirting a few coats of laquer on her and she'll be mint and you can double your money when the car doesn't have a straight panel on it, doesn't run and only one tire holds air!

Want to see injustice? Come on down to my level and see what you get for $5K - $10K out in Camaro land these days and listen to the sales pitches about squirting a few coats of laquer on her and she'll be mint and you can double your money when the car doesn't have a straight panel on it, doesn't run and only one tire holds air!

Amen !!!!!,, Dennis,, I agree 100%
Frank

Car looks real nice.
I would imagine that if I bought a 67 Z when new. I might have drilled holes in the fenders myself back then. It was a daily driver. Like they all were then.

Original owners have a whole different perspective on their cars.
They always enjoyed them to their fullest. That is why they still have them.

If you were a serious buyer, I'm sure you could ask all the questions you wanted. He has to cut down on the eBay BS somehow. Just way too many silly questions from people who have no means, or intention of buying anything.

Engine stamp looks exactly right. I like that car a lot!!!
How much did he say he wanted? :D

My car had all the emblems removed late 70's and holes welded closed. Went from Corvette Bronze to yellow lacquer with a blacked out tail panel. That tells me that SS396 meant didly squat at that time.
After getting the front clip off I could see the weld marks on the inside of the panels so at least I'm okay on redrilling.

I'm not commenting on the Z thing because of lack of background knowledge, just speaking from the perspective that people did crazy things to cars not too long ago.

How about 8 inch shackles to lift the rear end.

i think i remember seeing this car in a 1990-91 uscc "camaro corral" magazine, won top honors at a national event.

The description alone would send up the red flags,but it's a real Z, just bugered.

My car had all the emblems removed late 70's and holes welded closed. Went from Corvette Bronze to yellow lacquer with a blacked out tail panel. That tells me that SS396 meant didly squat at that time.
After getting the front clip off I could see the weld marks on the inside of the panels so at least I'm okay on redrilling.

I'm not commenting on the Z thing because of lack of background knowledge, just speaking from the perspective that people did crazy things to cars not too long ago.

How about 8 inch shackles to lift the rear end.

Above is the prime example of what we did to our cars when they were new and suffer many years later as the crowd looked more to orginal cars that they have become. I for one grew up with my 69 Z and mated , dated and married girl of my dreams in it , then did the honeymoon and above all , installed underdash AC and a trailer hitch on it. Foolish by todays standards but fact is many of us still have our cars. Ready to hand down when we check out. Does that make my orginal Z anything short of? Only if these cars could talk.

I remember hearing stories of guys cutting the front ends of their 67 Corvettes off, and installing 68 shark noses. this was in 1968- when the new body style came out. They wanted the cars to look like the later model ones.
Also back when - many people cut the split out of their 63 SWC to make them look like the "new' model 64.
68 Z badges on a 67? - I almost think everyone would have wanted them. :)

I for one grew up with my 69 Z and mated , dated and married girl of my dreams in it , then did the honeymoon and

Ahaaa! the '70's, ;)

Only if these cars could talk.

NOT!!! :D

I inspected the car and it is real. I also saw the docs to go with it. The cowl tag was replaced during the resto, because it was damaged. This car was in a previous discussion about a month ago. I wanted the car because it is pretty much complete, cept for somethings added with don't belong. Believe me, the car is all that and a bag of chips!!!!

i think i remember seeing this car in a 1990-91 uscc "camaro corral" magazine, won top honors at a national event.

Found it. Here are the pics from Camaro Corral, Nov/Dec 1990 issue:

http://www.67z28.com/images/ormsby-1.jpg
http://www.67z28.com/images/ormsby-2.jpg

I Also had this car next to me! In 1993 The Camaro nationals was in the GM Factory in Ont.This Z took first place for original,and mine took second.I also have some pics that I have to find.This brings back some good memories>My Son was two years old.Nick

I was looking at this car a while ago. MacNeish has seen it in person and said it has a few things wrong with it .. like some incorrect hardware etc..nothing major.. he said it is absolutely 100% the real deal. I would love to have this car.

Then buy it, :) , I don't think you bought a car this week yet... ;)
I was looking at this car a while ago. MacNeish has seen it in person and said it has a few things wrong with it .. like some incorrect hardware etc..nothing major.. he said it is absolutely 100% the real deal. I would love to have this car.

Then buy it, :) , I don't think you bought a car this week yet... ;)
LMAO :) Hey Vans. I think Buck Is trying to tell you something :)

Original owners bought them, enjoyed them, and did whatever they wanted with them - they were just cars 37 years ago. The original owner of my '69Z took the A.I.R. components off the first night he had it home from the dealer, took the "Camaro" fender emblems and X33 quarter gills off, brazed the holes shut and spotted those areas 'cuz he thought it looked cleaner without them, blew it up in 1970 when it got a "CE" block (and one head), drove it into his lower-level-walkout rec room in 1978 and parked it there until 1993, brought it back out to drive in 1994, and I bought it from him in 2000. He still had the A.I.R. parts in a box in the basement, I got those for $100.00 a month later after he finally located the box, and nothing else on the car was touched. The car was sold new in Canada and spent its whole life there, so I have the GM docs on it. Just turned over 34,000 miles last summer, hasn't had anything changed other than what's noted above except tires, belts, battery, and hoses since the day it was built. Back then, they were just "cars". :thumbsup:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-2/13522/2002228131959-4-Zfrt34.JPG

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