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: Fiberglass mono leaf springs for 69 camaro


Procharged69
Mar 1st, 01, 06:12 AM
I read in one of my new magazines about some fiberglass mono leaf springs they installed on a 69 camaro. I would like to get some of these!

Anyone know where to get some?

Thanks...

kszach
Mar 1st, 01, 06:20 AM
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boodlefoof
Mar 1st, 01, 10:09 AM
I wish they weren't so expensive. They say it will save you almost 50 lbs.

Jeff H
Mar 1st, 01, 10:49 AM
Well, depending on what you're going to do with your car, maybe you can justify them. If you plan to race it and you would need traction bars for the metal multileafs, you wouldn't need them with the fiberglass springs since there's no wheel hop.

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Procharged69
Mar 1st, 01, 12:09 PM
They say no wheel hop, I don't know. I'me pushing over 500 HP, and plan on adding more.

If I didn't need traction bars it would even out for the monoleafs considering how much cal tracs are.

Yet, you know there's gonna be wheel hop, or people drag racing would just use fiberglass leafs, right? I'm not sure.

dthiel
Mar 1st, 01, 01:45 PM
A company called Landrum makes these as well.
www.landrumspring.com (http://www.landrumspring.com)

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penguinjohn
Mar 1st, 01, 01:55 PM
what is the rate on those fiberglass springs? i would like to save a little weight in the rear. do they come as lowered springs too?

john

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boodlefoof
Mar 1st, 01, 02:14 PM
PenguinJohn,

It may be a money pit, but your camaro is gorgeous! What kind of suspension are you running, it has the perfect stance.

davidpozzi
Mar 1st, 01, 02:52 PM
http://members.carol.net/spring/
These guys make them.
David

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treyman
Mar 1st, 01, 03:48 PM
David, Do you know about what they cost? Also have you ever used them? And last but not least are they good for Drag Racing type applications? Thanks for the help. Mike

boodlefoof
Mar 1st, 01, 04:19 PM
Vettebrakes sells them for about $450 a pair.

jay web
Mar 3rd, 01, 04:57 AM
Guys-- I have a set of these combined with Hotchkis front springs. Good ride. Great handling. They offer 2 different rates for the leaf springs- small and big block. I was told by one of Vette Brakes engineers to run the big block springs if I was going to run even a small block with alot of power such as Procharged69 is. Give them a call.

David R
Mar 3rd, 01, 03:02 PM
I have the fiberglass springs and ive noticed a marked improvement in straight line traction, they weigh nothing, i like them except that you will have to put in a panhard bar, i used competion engineerings panhard for this, anymore info email me if u want

Procharged69
Mar 3rd, 01, 04:10 PM
David R,

Panbar??? What is this and how much does
it cost and what is it's purpose?

So, do you have any wheel hop...?
Would you buy them again....?

Thanks for the info!

RockyMtnRacer
Mar 3rd, 01, 08:58 PM
David R -

What's this about a panhard bar? Why is one needed? I've been running the fiberglass springs for several years without a bar - and see no reason why I would need to change anything. Can you explain a bit more please?

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David R
Mar 4th, 01, 10:47 AM
the metal leaf springs also give lateral rigidity to the rear end during hard cornering, the fiberglass springs do not offer this ridgidity so to make up for it you should install a panhard bar. It keeps the rear centered during hard cornering. one end welds to the rear the other to the frame..it comes with instructions they are pretty clear, i can draw something by hand and email it to you if you need it. the wheel hop has been effectively eliminated and yes i would buy them again, iam telling you they weigh nothing i think 11 pounds for both of them. This helped offset the weight gain i got when i switched to the ford 9 inch.

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Mike67cam
Mar 4th, 01, 07:35 PM
If anyone is interested, I am selling a pair of the Vette Products springs for $250. I am not sure of the spring rate - they were on my 67 when I bought it. The car still had some wheel hop with these springs during agressive launches. This was with a 350 with the Edelbrock RPM package, 4 speed,and 3.55 gears. They probably would be better on a 68 or 69 becasue of the staggered shocks. When I started taking the car apart to set it up for a big block, I noticed that one of the shocks was blown which probably compounded the wheel hop.

I don't have a panhard bar and never had any problems during cornering with the springs.

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David R
Mar 5th, 01, 03:38 AM
I ran the springs for a while without the panhard bar too, but if you talk to vette products, and i think in their catalog too in fine print they recommend a panhard bar for cornering. Ill have to dig out the catalog to confirm this. but it is recommended when using the fiberglass springs, and it did help. Panhard bar cost about 90.00 I think and i had it installed by a local welder for about 30.00., oh and Iam running a supercharged 350 in my car and the whell hop is nil the car takes off dead straight. the springs come in two rate, I think 125lbs and 200lbs, but you can call and ask.

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RickD
Mar 5th, 01, 04:01 AM
This is the first I've heard about needing a panhard. However I've heard it's more difficult to attach one to a 12 bolt because of the housing. True?

chacane67
Mar 5th, 01, 11:16 AM
They also DO NOT allow the use of aftermarket bushings.....IE Global West, Energy Suspension and so on. They have their own bushing dia. which is much smaller...

FYI

ilbl8
Mar 5th, 01, 11:32 AM
a panhard rod is a good idea with steel spring's too.

they help out alot in the corner's and if set up with very siff bushing's help out with body sway. they also help control the rolling of the axle when you start out.

most racer's use one, and alot of big car's had a panhard rod as O.E. to control sway and improve cornering with there soft spring's.

David R
Mar 5th, 01, 01:09 PM
Yes your right about the bushings, also once you put them in its a snap to change the leaf springs because the spring itself unbolts from the mounts, it was easy when i changed to the stiffer spring., i didnt have to mess with the shackles or any of that just unbolted the spring, and slid the new one in.